Doesn’t this also imply that you are using AWT/Swing?  JavaFX has no way to be 
hosted in anything other than a JFXPanel or a JavaFX Stage.  Only the JFXPanel 
can be hosted in a windows that allows heavy weight (native) controls, or even 
allows JNI code to get the window handle so you can integrate your JavaFX with 
other native bits.


Scott

On Dec 9, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Stephen F Northover <steve.x.northo...@oracle.com> 
wrote:

> Today, you can only exercise the choice by writing native code and you face 
> heavyweight / lightweight issues depending on the platform and API.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On 2013-12-09 12:31 PM, Felix Bembrick wrote:
>> Stephen, I thoroughly agree that JavaFX is by far the best choice for 
>> non-native apps/widgets which is precisely my point. They are the kind of 
>> apps perfect for using JavaFX.
>> 
>> But you refer to giving people the choice to go native where appropriate. 
>> How can I exercise that choice? Where is the support for native widgets in 
>> JavaFX?
>> 
>> And isn't the real Holy Grail being able to mix native and non-native 
>> widgets in the same app with all features of Node being available to every 
>> widget, with all the effects and transforms, all the CSS/styling and with 
>> all the performance?
>> 
>> Could JavaFX ever be such a toolkit?
>> 
>>> On 10 Dec 2013, at 2:24, Stephen F Northover <steve.x.northo...@oracle.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here are my thoughts on the matter.  Give people the choice of whether to 
>>> use native or non-native components.  In some applications, everything will 
>>> be non-native.  In others, only the main content area will be non-native 
>>> and the rest will be native. In some mobile applications, perhaps the 
>>> preference pages will be native and other parts will not.
>>> 
>>> JavaFX is the best choice for non-native widgets and we are committed to 
>>> making it the best toolkit all around.
>>> 
>>> Steve

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