OpenLDAP: "Brains not included."
On Jan 30, 2014 3:45 PM, "Borresen, John - 0442 - MITLL" <
john.borre...@ll.mit.edu> wrote:

> Sorry, I didn't read the original mailing list...I too wanted to send to
> the board and not you individually.  My apologies.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Borresen, John - 0442 - MITLL
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:16 PM
> To: 'Turbo Fredriksson'; Howard Chu
> Subject: RE: Have you seen this FUD - IT pros suffer OpenLDAP
> configuration headaches ?
>
> I have experience with OpenLDAP, 389-Directory-Server, OpenDJ, OpenDS,
> RedHat's Directory Studio.  I am not an LDAP expert by any means (as can be
> seen by my help posts -- that was supposed to be funny).  While I get
> aggravated by the difficulty in installing OpenLDAP, the miniscule
> documentation, and the differing, and often conflicting, documents found
> via a google search I always recommend OpenLDAP over the other products.
>  The OpenLDAP Admin Guide, for a product that has been out for a very long
> time, as far as a how-to-guide, is lacking a lot and seems incomplete --
> many areas are simply blank.  The bouncing back and forth between the
> slapd.conf (old) and the slapd.d (new) methodologies is very aggravating
> and not helpful (to me).
>
> I understand that there is not just one way to install OpenLDAP...the
> options are pretty mind-boggling -- and can't all be put in an Admin Guide,
> the manual as more than a dictionary could be so much more.  With this test
> environment I've been building over that 2 or 3 months, it's been broken
> down and restarted, from scratch, at least once a month.  The original
> environment (the current production) took me about a year to get up and
> running.
>
> We use the Apache Directory Studio as a front-end GUI to view the dbase,
> mostly.  Most modifications are via the CLI tools.
>
> Don't get me wrong, even for my "bashing" of OpenLDAP above, it is the
> first one that I would recommend.  I look at the bright side...each time
> the slate has to be cleaned and restarted the more I learn.
>
> Dave Borresen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: openldap-technical-boun...@openldap.org [mailto:
> openldap-technical-boun...@openldap.org] On Behalf Of Turbo Fredriksson
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:53 AM
> To: Howard Chu
> Subject: Re: Have you seen this FUD - IT pros suffer OpenLDAP
> configuration headaches ?
>
> On Jan 30, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Howard Chu wrote:
>
> > I saw some of this on twitter before, ignored it since none of the
> parties involved have any clue what they're talking about.
>
>
> Personally, I think it's spot on. It IS hard to configure an LDAP server,
> and even harder to understand how it works (the object based part). Took me
> three months first time, and I'm not an idiot.
>
> Even today, I need to consult either my own book or the howto (or
> seriously skim through the man pages) to setup a new server.
>
> And even worse if when you want to optimize the backend... There's a lot
> of magic there....
>
> And with the new config backend!? I haven't even had the time or energy to
> go that far yet!
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