Ondřej,

from what I remember is that password expiry worked well, BUT users were not 
warned about the password expiring (they claimed) unless that information was 
provided via the shadow attribute. Maybe that's due to the fact that we use a 
mixture of local users and LDAP users typically. Obviously both need some 
common interface....

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Ulrich Windl

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ondřej Kuzník <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2025 10:12 AM
> To: Windl, Ulrich <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: [EXT] Re: Re: Re: Re: changing password with otp active
> 
> On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 05:31:02AM +0000, Windl, Ulrich wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > The industry has an interest on providing short-lived product cycles,
> > but in an enterprise environment five to 10 years are not uncommon.
> > Also "new" products are usually full of new bugs, and it's not clear
> > whether they are actually better than what had proved stable over many
> > years. There are even rumors that people using vi are still alive 😉
> > SSSD has advantages when you are aiming towards MS-Windows IMHO,
> but
> > (for example) the resource footprint is much larger than that of the
> > old PAM or services method.
> >
> > Currently we still need those for a few systems that aren't upgraded yet.
> 
> Hi Ulrich,
> ppolicy draft 9 was issued 20 years ago in July 2005, draft 10 was
> issued 16 years ago in 2009. As I mentioned even nslcd (pam-ldap(d)) has
> supported these for well over a decade. So I'm not sure what sort of
> system you're trying to make work but either you give up on ppolicy and
> manage everything yourself or embrace the tools at your disposal.
> Anything else would require a "new" product usually full of new bugs.
> 
> Not even sure how you got it to work with OpenLDAP 2.4 because that's
> what I hear you implying and it's not like the interfaces have changed
> in this regard in 2.5/2.6. Perhaps you had some bespoke integration
> in-house you haven't mentioned that was doing what you suggest and now
> isn't?
> 
> We only know what you choose to share...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Ondřej Kuzník
> Senior Software Engineer
> Symas Corporation                       http://www.symas.com
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