*even though I still don't understand why the default isn't to show the page in it's full pixel size*
because 90% of all users complain about the opposite! The majority of the users use it that way: The moderator load the slides and scale it so that he can see it optimal *on his screen resolution *then the user x,y,z enters the room and the moderator talks about sth in the slides but the users cannot see it cause they use different screen resolutions ... => that is what the full-fit functionality is build for, it will zoom it so that the document is 100% visible on all screen Sebastian 2010/11/9 Peder <peder.hedl...@ornskoldsvik.se> > OK, I have done some more moderator/user testing and indeed, if the > moderator changes zoom level the users also see that change. So I can > probably live with that (even though I still don't understand why the > default isn't to show the page in it's full pixel size). > > On 9 Nov, 17:06, "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Peder, > > > > why should any *novice* has to play around with that at all?!?! > > > > Its your job as moderator to either decide *full-fit* to have the hole > > document visible OR to adjust the zoom manually to 100%. No other > > participant except the moderator needs to take hand on those values. > > > > And I don't think that the always visible top-right on the whiteboard is > > harder to see then some hidden values in the property editor. > > > > Sebastian > > > > 2010/11/9 Peder <peder.hedl...@ornskoldsvik.se> > > > > > The Demo site displays it somewhat better > > > (http://www2.park.se/~peder/<http://www2.park.se/%7Epeder/> > > > Demo-wrong.jpg <http://www2.park.se/%7Epeder/%0ADemo-wrong.jpg>) but I > > > still need to take some action (i.e. set the > > > zoom slider [which is now even harder for a novice to see and > > > understand] to 100%) if I want to be able read the document. > > > > > On 9 Nov, 16:28, "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > Yes and all I am talking about is the Demo Platform ... there is NO > such > > > > official release yet, you can only test it on the Demo Server (or get > a > > > > Nightly Build or Source) > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > 2010/11/9 Peder <peder.hedl...@ornskoldsvik.se> > > > > > > > To clarify one final time, if I load a document into the whiteboard > in > > > > > OM-1.5 I get this > > > > > result:http://www2.park.se/~peder/15-wrong.jpg<http://www2.park.se/%7Epeder/15-wrong.jpg> > <http://www2.park.se/%7Epeder/15-wrong.jpg> > > > <http://www2.park.se/%7Epeder/15-wrong.jpg> > > > > > What I want to be displayed as default is this : > > > > >http://www2.park.se/~peder/15-right.jpg<http://www2.park.se/%7Epeder/15-right.jpg> > <http://www2.park.se/%7Epeder/15-right.jpg> > > > <http://www2.park.se/%7Epeder/15-right.jpg> > > > > > > > If I interpret what my users says correctly, the latter was the > > > > > default behaviour in OM-1.0 and when I upgraded to 1.5 they got the > > > > > former. > > > > > > > On 9 Nov, 15:10, "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hallo Peder, > > > > > > > > well I don't think that this kind of feature will come to reality > in > > > a > > > > > > community driven process. You might add a ticket to the support > bug > > > > > tracker. > > > > > > > > But I don't see any realistic use-case for that, what shall be > usage > > > of > > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > Also you can already achieve that, just unmark the checkbox *full > > > fit* > > > > > and > > > > > > then drag and drop the document to the whiteboard. You can then > > > freely > > > > > scale > > > > > > the document and all participant will see the document at EXACTLY > > > same > > > > > > zoom-level like you do. > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > 2010/11/9 Peder <peder.hedl...@ornskoldsvik.se> > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if we misunderstand each other. > > > > > > > What I would like to be able to set as default (it could be a > > > setting > > > > > > > in config.xml) is do display the unscaled document. > > > > > > > It doesn't matter if I only see the first 5 lines of the page > and > > > have > > > > > > > to scroll to see the rest but I don't want a zoomed out page > where > > > I > > > > > > > either have to find some zoom button or buy a really strong > > > magnifying > > > > > > > glass :) > > > > > > > > > On 9 Nov, 12:14, "seba.wag...@gmail.com" < > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hallo Peder, > > > > > > > > > > what you mean is to see the *entire document* not *entired > > > unzoomed*. > > > > > > > > Yes and that is what the new function will do it will scale > the > > > > > document > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > that you can see it completely, no matter what screen > resolution > > > each > > > > > > > user > > > > > > > > has. > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > 2010/11/9 Peder <peder.hedl...@ornskoldsvik.se> > > > > > > > > > > > What I would like is a way to have it displayed entirely > > > unzoomed > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > > default (and from what I can tell the demo version seems to > be > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > that, right?) > > > > > > > > > For most users it's of little interest to see the whole > > > document if > > > > > > > > > it's zoomed so much they can't see the details. > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Nov, 10:26, "seba.wag...@gmail.com" < > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hallo Peder, > > > > > > > > > > > > check the Demo Version onwww.openmeetings.de > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a new implementation of the full-fit and zooming > in > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > If you enable full fit, it will be displayed 100% VISIBLE > > > (that > > > > > means > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > screen with 1024x768 it might be 40% while on another > screen > > > > > 70%). > > > > > > > Also > > > > > > > > > > objects drawn on the whiteboard are now zoomed in the > smae > > > > > dimensions > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > obejcts on the whiteboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/11/9 Peder <peder.hedl...@ornskoldsvik.se> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to set the default zoom level of > uploaded > > > files > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > whiteboard to 100% in OM-1.5? > > > > > > > > > > > As it is now documents are displayed full-fit, which is > > > about > > > > > 40% > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > that's way too small to see. > > > > 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