Hi Dimitri! No need to apologize, I'm very grateful for your friendly help! :) Thanks for letting me know my server hardware is likely enough. I know you never said it just worked for you; that was a brain fart on my behalf.
In Ubuntu I only do ./configure, make, sudo chkinstall, or something like that, to make an apt-managed install from arbitrary source. In CentOS there was lots of opinions where to obtain the source code and I had to build some strange folder tree for compilation, and in the end it didn't work anyway. Maybe I was just trying to follow the wrong guide. I looked through Stephen's installation instructions for Ubuntu, and I saw many differences from how I installed it the spontaneous way, so I'll look closer into that sometime soon when I can find the time. In particular, I have jre 7, so I'll try to fix my java properly. And just as Solomax pointed out, I meant swftools, not flvtools. But nevermind, I'll try all the versions suggested by Stephen. On 2012.13.12, at 15:28, Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > Hi, Mikael. > > Apologies for the delay in repsonding. Besides the fact > that I'm in timezone GMT -5, I'm also buried in other work. > I'm sure you know how that goes :-) . > > Let's see now: > > Firstly, Maxim and Stephen are aces re: OM, so you've got > some great "go-to" people assisting you. > > Next, my OM installation is a VMware VM, with 1GB of memory > and one dual-core CPU (both virtual, of course). So, I > don't see your hardware being a particular issues. > > Next, while I tend to agree that an RPM-based (or deb, for > that matter) installation should install RPM-based > packages, where practicable, as Maxim suggested, compiling > needed packages is no sin. In fact, I compiled all of the > packages required by OM, as per the how-to I posted > yesterday. It's no more easy or difficult to compile in > CentOS than it is in Debian/Ubuntu, Slackware, FreeBSD, > etc. in my experience. > > I never said that OM "just works". I did have to tweak my > installation (with the assistance of the list, I might > add). But, it is doable, as I have an install that works > completely. > > I'm not sure that symlinking to make Oracle Java your > default installation is best practices. I, at least, > always have to export the JRE home path. But, if you got > it to work, hey ... . I guess you can play around with the > Java install some time in the future. > > I don't seem to have flvtools installed (it wasn't included > in the installation instructions, but may be part of > another installed package). FFmpeg is that latest from > that package's repo. I have OM 2.0 installed. > > HTH. > > Dimitri > > > On Wednesday 12 December 2012 9:28:37 pm Maxim Solodovnik > wrote: >> Hello Mikael, >> >> I personally build ffmpeg 10.3 from the sources all the >> time IMPORTANT: it should be configured with the >> following options before build --enable-libmp3lame >> --enable-libxvid --enable-libvorbis --enable-libgsm >> --enable-libfaac --enable-gpl --enable-nonfree >> >> also please ensure flashsv and flashsv2 decoder/encoder >> are enable after configure >> >> >> According to your recording problem: I wish I have your >> machine to fix the recordings :))) >> It is really hard to fix without being able to reproduce >> :( >> >> I'll try to take a look at this message at the code. >> >> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Mikael Kurula > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Dimitri, >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your friendly and constructive >>> message! With your help I now managed to install the >>> libreoffice converter, so now I can import almost any >>> imaginable file format to the whiteboard, which is >>> awesome. :) (The alternative command didn't find >>> Oracle's java on my server, but I changed the symlink >>> to java in /etc/alternatives by hand.) >>> >>> Unfortunately, unlike you (and perhaps most users it >>> seems?), my situation is not that everything "just >>> works"; therefore I ask for help here. I also hope that >>> my questions indicate issues which might need to be >>> addressed before OpenMeetings can be accessible to the >>> wide public; I suppose it is in the interest of the >>> developers to at least be aware of my problems. I'm >>> very surprised if nobody else has these problems. And >>> it says on a page somewhere that the OM project is >>> grateful for any feedback; maybe my questions can be >>> regarded as feedback from a not-quite-so-technical >>> user. >>> >>> I tried looking at the mailing list archive again, but >>> I can't find a way to search per author (or per keyword >>> either for that matter), so I cannot find your earlier >>> posts. If you happen to know the answer to any of my >>> questions in this post, then I'd be most grateful: >>> >>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-open >>> meetings-user/201212.mbox/%3C081FEEE9-ACDF-4E35-B8B4-CA0 >>> 910711F88%40gmail.com%3E >>> >>> After I wrote that post, I have now found some >>> suggestions for server hardware for OM, but it's still >>> not clear to me if the fact that my server is a single >>> 2 GHz cpu with only 2GB of RAM is connected to my >>> problem 3 or not. We have so far only been testing with >>> one or two clients at once. >>> >>> I had a new look at the installation instructions for >>> CentOS 6 and I installed all the listed packages using >>> yum. I didn't want to follow these instructions >>> earlier, because as I have understood, you shouldn't >>> install software from source outside of your package >>> manager. In Ubuntu it's easy to compile from source >>> with the package manager but in CentOS it seems very >>> complicated; I have tried without success a few times. >>> >>> Desperate to get the recordings to work, I anyway tried >>> installing ffmpeg-0.10.6.tar.bz2 from source (I chose >>> version 0.10.6 because it says in the OpenMeetings >>> installation instructions that OM is tested against >>> ffmpeg 10.3), since my version from the package manager >>> was antique. Unfortunately, that didn't improve >>> anything. I didn't compile flvtools from source, >>> because the package maintainer's version was 0.9.1. >>> >>> Which version of flvtools and ffmpeg are you using if I >>> may ask? What other packages could cause me recording >>> problems? And what are the CPU/RAM specifications of >>> your server? Which version of OM do you use and where >>> did you download it if you have a newer version than >>> 2.0? I downloaded 2.0 from the download page, since I >>> got the impression that is the latest stable version, >>> but I'd be happy to test with newer versions in case >>> there is hope they'd work better for me. >>> >>> Very grateful for any help as usual, >>> Mikael >>> >>> On 12 December 2012 15:56, Dimitri Yioulos > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Mikael, >>>> >>>> This response is more motivational than technical: >>>> >>>> I had no problem at all using OM/LibreOffice with >>>> Oracle's Java. Both OpenJDK and Java 7 are installed >>>> on my machine, but I've made Java 7 the "active" >>>> version using the alternatives command. Likewise, >>>> using MySQL works, as does recording. I'm sure you're >>>> searching the mailing list archive for some guidance >>>> (you'll see plenty of shouts for help from me :-) ). >>>> Also, I found that this how-to: >>>> >>>> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/Installatio >>>> nCentOS5 >>>> >>>> is a good starting point for installing OM on CentOS >>>> (5 and 6). >>>> >>>> What I've found (surprise, surprise) is that you do >>>> have to tweak and test to get everything working just >>>> right. I suppose these are the "rough edges" of the >>>> current OM release. However, this release has come a >>>> long way from earlier ones, which I tried in the >>>> way-back. I'm thinking that future releases will be >>>> kick-a**. >>>> >>>> Keep at it; it's worth the effort! >>>> >>>> Dimitri >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday 12 December 2012 8:23:10 am Mikael Kurula >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> I'm also in the process of trying out if >>>>> OpenMeetings is a possible alternative to Adobe >>>>> Connect, with which I'm utterly fed up. >>>>> >>>>> The only problem I had with CentOS is that >>>>> LibreOffice for CentOS 6 depends on OpenJDK whereas >>>>> OpenMeetings need Oracle's Java. Somebody better att >>>>> juggling with with yum probably can probably solve >>>>> this easily (in which case I'd be grateful for >>>>> help). >>>>> >>>>> Avoiding MySQL sounds like a reasonable idea to me, >>>>> since I ran into this problem: >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-4 >>>>> 88 (From what I understood this is very rare.) >>>>> >>>>> Right now my only showstopper issues are with >>>>> recording, so I could suggest you check out if the >>>>> recording capabilities are sufficient for your >>>>> needs. In addition to the messages I've posted to >>>>> the users list, I'm also having this problem: >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2 >>>>> 70 >>>>> >>>>> Otherwise OpenMeetings would surely do the job just >>>>> fine for me, so I sincerely hope I can make the >>>>> recordings work, but I need help from the OM experts >>>>> for that. :) >>>>> >>>>> Friendly greetings, >>>>> Mikael >>>>> >>>>> On 2012.12.12, at 15:09, Nicklas af Ekenstam wrote: >>>>>> Thanks Dimitri, >>>>>> >>>>>> That's helpful nonetheless. I may try both CentOS >>>>>> and Ubuntu then. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also found something which I think answers my >>>>>> somewhat ill articulated question regarding >>>>>> upstream relay servers: >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENME >>>>>> ETING S/Cluster+Master-Slave+overview >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again, >>>>>> Nicklas >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Dimitri Yioulos >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Nicklas. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't answer any of your technical questions, >>>>>> but can say that I've installed OM on a VMware >>>>>> virtual machine running CentOS 6.3. It works a >>>>>> treat. Others have installed it on machines >>>>>> running Ubuntu. I guess that's a matter of >>>>>> personal choice depending on, for example, the >>>>>> distro you're most comfortable with, or run in >>>>>> your environment. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dimitri >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday 12 December 2012 5:55:41 am Nicklas >>>>>> af Ekenstam >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am in the process of setting up a proof of >>>>>>> concept based on OpenMeetings and would very >>>>>>> much appreciate your input on a few questions >>>>>>> before I get started. The goal of this proof of >>>>>>> concept is to evaluate if OpenMeetings would be >>>>>>> a suitable replacement for a current system >>>>>>> based on Adobe Connect. (I sure hope so.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I would like to do is install a fully >>>>>>> working OpenMeetings environment that we can >>>>>>> play around with. As I would propably have to >>>>>>> take this on the road I'm wondering if a VMware >>>>>>> based install would work? I see that there are >>>>>>> some VMware images available for download but I >>>>>>> think I would prefer to do the install from >>>>>>> scratch myself in order to assess the >>>>>>> installation process as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm thinking of doing the install in one of our >>>>>>> Vsphere clusters and, if I need to take it on >>>>>>> the road with me, export it to VMware >>>>>>> Workstation images and run locally on one (or >>>>>>> more) laptops with my own networking equipment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These are my questions: >>>>>>> What is a solid choice for the OS/distro? I'm >>>>>>> guessing, based on reading the Wiki, that CentOS >>>>>>> is a good choice; but what version? Or should I >>>>>>> look into one of the other fine distros out >>>>>>> there? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm looking to try the clustering features as >>>>>>> well on this project so, based on that, how many >>>>>>> servers - performing what tasks - do you propose >>>>>>> I setup? I would like to use PostgreSQL for the >>>>>>> DB, but MySQL would also work. Two servers >>>>>>> running OpenMeetings and one server running the >>>>>>> database? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would also like to explore SIP connectivity so >>>>>>> perhaps one server running Asterisk (or >>>>>>> similiar)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do I need any more servers for something that >>>>>>> would, pretty much, mimic a real live situation? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And while I'm asking questions: >>>>>>> Is there a way to extend OpenMeetings so that >>>>>>> video broadcasts could use upstream relaying >>>>>>> servers somehow? We have schools in different >>>>>>> locations and it would be nice if people in >>>>>>> these schools could connect to a locally >>>>>>> installed relay server for the video feed >>>>>>> instead of each of them having to go the main >>>>>>> OpenMeetings server gobbling up unnecessary >>>>>>> bandwidth in the process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>> Nicklas >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>>>> believed to be clean. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>> believed to be clean. >> >> -- >> WBR >> Maxim aka solomax > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. >
