Mike (mwester) wrote:
Sean McNeil wrote:
... A user shouldn't get
his/her hands on things until suspend/resume has been ironed out and is
working properly. They shouldn't be getting things in this state. Only
developers should. Alternatively, does it make sense for a user to have
a device where the screen is constantly blinking on as it is doing now?
There are several thousand GTA01's in the wild right now. I have no
idea how many GTA02's have been delivered to users by now, how many are
in transit, and how many are waiting to ship in warehouses somewhere --
but I am on the #openmoko IRC channel, and it's pretty clear that there
are numerous users with the devices, in exactly this state.
So my point is exactly this, that users have the device in this state,
and given this reality we need to make compromises.
Not at all. I believe this means we should have a "stable" and a
"development" branch. Those that have the know-how can venture into the
development branch are forewarned. I just saw you sent an email pretty
much along the same lines.
One fault I find in this is you are assuming too much knowledge or skill
in the user base. I am not certain they could provide data that would
help directly. In most cases the only way to help would be if someone
with more skill can duplicate the problem.
We are not asking to leave the screen off. We are saying the application
layer is suppose to control it. If you sleep with display on, wakes up
on. Sleep with display off, wake with display off. If you think it is
important to always wake up with display on, then always suspend with it
turned on. Doesn't that work for you?
Oh it works for me _personally_ just fine - I have a complete
development environment for every image available for the gta01 and
gta02 (with the exception of Qtopia; I don't currently build that). I
can change anything I want.
But that doesn't work for Joe User, who flashed an image he downloaded
from the OM build host. That's the person who needs to be given what
help we can, because that's the person who's going to influence others
to buy the device, and possibly buy the gta03 or gta04 in the future.
Yes, but Joe User won't be able to help even if the display is turned on :)
