I don't think you have even read what I wrote below...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: SuryaNarayana Garlapati [mailto:suryanarayana.garlap...@oracle.com]
> Sent: den 18 november 2013 09:41
> To: Nagendra Kumar; Hans Feldt; Hans Nordebäck; Praveen Malviya; Mathivanan 
> Naickan Palanivelu
> Cc: opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 1 of 1] amfnd: Reboot payload when link between 
> Controller and Payload flickers [#600]
> 
> one basic question:
> If the bearer is dual, tipc flickering on one link should be transparent
> and there  will be no effect to applications as the other bearer is
> still alive and healthy.
> If still the TIPC DOWN's are delivered to the applications, then this is
> purely a protocol problem in TIPC.
> 
> If the bearer is single, automatically the AMFND will reboot self on
> Link flap.
> 
> So i dont see a practical problem.
> 
> 
> On Monday 18 November 2013 02:04 PM, Nagendra Kumar wrote:
> >>> Does amfd try to fence the payload when this happens?
> > Amfd reset Amfnd information, but Amfnd lives like an orphan as Amfd will 
> > not entertain any requests from Amfnd.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Nagu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hans Feldt [mailto:hans.fe...@ericsson.com]
> > Sent: 18 November 2013 12:56
> > To: Nagendra Kumar; Suryanarayana Garlapati; Hans Nordebäck; Praveen 
> > Malviya; Mathivanan Naickan Palanivelu
> > Cc: opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: RE: [devel] [PATCH 1 of 1] amfnd: Reboot payload when link between 
> > Controller and Payload flickers [#600]
> >
> > As I said this problem originates from a low memory condition on the 
> > payload that results in TIPC on that payload resets the link(s).
> Once TIPC links are re-established, the AMF cluster cannot be re-established. 
> I think TIPC has now been changed to handle this better
> so the likeliness of this to happen will be dramatically reduced.
> >
> > Other triggers for this could be long network latencies as can happen 
> > running virtualized without quality of service guarantees.
> >
> > This problem is of course part of the bigger problem of a too simplistic 
> > cluster management in OpenSAF.
> >
> > Does amfd try to fence the payload when this happens?
> >
> > /Hans
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nagendra Kumar [mailto:nagendr...@oracle.com]
> >> Sent: den 18 november 2013 07:57
> >> To: Suryanarayana Garlapati; Hans Feldt; Hans Nordebäck; Praveen
> >> Malviya; Mathivanan Naickan Palanivelu
> >> Cc: opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: RE: [devel] [PATCH 1 of 1] amfnd: Reboot payload when link
> >> between Controller and Payload flickers [#600]
> >>
> >> Hi Hans,
> >>    Any response ?
> >>
> >> -Nagu
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nagendra Kumar
> >> Sent: 15 November 2013 14:39
> >> To: Suryanarayana Garlapati; hans.fe...@ericsson.com;
> >> hans.nordeb...@ericsson.com; Praveen Malviya; Mathivanan Naickan
> >> Palanivelu
> >> Cc: opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 1 of 1] amfnd: Reboot payload when link
> >> between Controller and Payload flickers [#600]
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I checked and it looks no easy possibility for detecting link loss at 
> >> controller AvD as it gets AvND down and Avnd UP in the tipc
> flicker.
> >> This is the same even when payload goes down and rejoins. Only time 
> >> difference is the differentiator between these two scenario.
> >>
> >> Hans: Can you please check any other possibility at Amfd to detect tipc 
> >> flicker?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Nagu
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Suryanarayana Garlapati
> >> Sent: 22 October 2013 14:41
> >> To: Nagendra Kumar; hans.fe...@ericsson.com;
> >> hans.nordeb...@ericsson.com; Praveen Malviya; Mathivanan Naickan
> >> Palanivelu
> >> Cc: opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1 of 1] amfnd: Reboot payload when link between
> >> Controller and Payload flickers [#600]
> >>
> >> Hi Nagu,
> >> What is the discrimination point that the link flap has occurred with
> >> only one PLD? The chances of getting link flap with one Payload is
> >> less when compared wiht link flap with all the payloads. With my
> >> suggestion, there will be a failover. but with the present patch if a link 
> >> flap happens with the payload nodes, all the payload nodes
> will go for reboot. So considering in total, i guess we should reboot the 
> Active controller only.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Surya
> >>
> >>
> >> On Monday 21 October 2013 06:40 PM, Nagendra Kumar wrote:
> >>> Hi Surya,
> >>>
> >>> The problem I see with the approach is : because of problem in
> >>> payload, others payload is impacted because of Act controller
> >> failover.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> -Nagu
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Suryanarayana Garlapati
> >>> Sent: 21 October 2013 18:22
> >>> To: Nagendra Kumar; hans.fe...@ericsson.com;
> >>> hans.nordeb...@ericsson.com; Praveen Malviya; Mathivanan Naickan
> >>> Palanivelu
> >>> Cc: opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1 of 1] amfnd: Reboot payload when link between
> >>> Controller and Payload flickers [#600]
> >>>
> >>> Hi Nagu,
> >>> I am not comfortable with this approach.
> >>> I think its better to reboot the active controller if link flaps and
> >>> not the payload node. If the link flaps between the active
> >>> controller
> >> and payload nodes, then there will total payload cluster reset which we 
> >> can avoid by just rebooting the active controller.
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Surya
> >>>
> >>> On Monday 21 October 2013 05:03 PM, nagendr...@oracle.com wrote:
> >>>>     osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/di.cc             |  13 +++++++++----
> >>>>     osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/include/avnd_cb.h |   1 +
> >>>>     osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/mds.cc            |  11 +++++++++++
> >>>>     3 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/di.cc
> >>>> b/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/di.cc
> >>>> --- a/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/di.cc
> >>>> +++ b/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/di.cc
> >>>> @@ -437,13 +437,18 @@ uint32_t avnd_evt_mds_avd_dn_evh(AVND_CB
> >>>>
> >>>>          TRACE_ENTER();
> >>>>
> >>>> -        LOG_ER("AMF director unexpectedly crashed");
> >>>> -
> >>>>          /* Don't issue reboot if it has been already issued.*/
> >>>>          if (false == cb->reboot_in_progress) {
> >>>>                  cb->reboot_in_progress = true;
> >>>> -                opensaf_reboot(avnd_cb->node_info.nodeId, (char 
> >>>> *)avnd_cb->node_info.executionEnvironment.value,
> >>>> -                                "local AVD down(Adest) or both AVD 
> >>>> down(Vdest) received");
> >>>> +                if(cb->cont_reboot_in_progress == false) {
> >>>> +                        LOG_ER("AMF director unexpectedly crashed");
> >>>> +                        opensaf_reboot(avnd_cb->node_info.nodeId, (char 
> >>>> *)avnd_cb->node_info.executionEnvironment.value,
> >>>> +                                        "local AVD down(Adest) or both 
> >>>> AVD down(Vdest) received");
> >>>> +                } else {
> >>>> +                        opensaf_reboot(avnd_cb->node_info.nodeId, (char 
> >>>> *)avnd_cb->node_info.executionEnvironment.value,
> >>>> +                                        "Link reset with Act 
> >>>> controller");
> >>>> +                }
> >>>> +
> >>>>          }
> >>>>
> >>>>          TRACE_LEAVE();
> >>>> diff --git a/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/include/avnd_cb.h
> >>>> b/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/include/avnd_cb.h
> >>>> --- a/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/include/avnd_cb.h
> >>>> +++ b/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/include/avnd_cb.h
> >>>> @@ -130,6 +130,7 @@ typedef struct avnd_cb_tag {
> >>>>          SaBoolT first_time_up;
> >>>>          bool reboot_in_progress;
> >>>>          AVND_SU *failed_su;
> >>>> +        bool cont_reboot_in_progress;
> >>>>     } AVND_CB;
> >>>>
> >>>>     #define AVND_CB_NULL ((AVND_CB *)0) diff --git
> >>>> a/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/mds.cc
> >>>> b/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/mds.cc
> >>>> --- a/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/mds.cc
> >>>> +++ b/osaf/services/saf/amf/amfnd/mds.cc
> >>>> @@ -386,6 +386,7 @@ uint32_t avnd_mds_rcv(AVND_CB *cb, MDS_C
> >>>>                  if ((AVSV_D2N_NODE_UP_MSG == ((AVSV_DND_MSG 
> >>>> *)(rcv_info->i_msg))->msg_type) ||
> >>>>                      (AVSV_D2N_DATA_VERIFY_MSG == ((AVSV_DND_MSG 
> >>>> *)(rcv_info->i_msg))->msg_type)) {
> >>>>                          cb->active_avd_adest = rcv_info->i_fr_dest;
> >>>> +                        avnd_cb->cont_reboot_in_progress = false;
> >>>>                          TRACE_1("Active AVD Adest = %" PRIu64 
> >>>> ,cb->active_avd_adest);
> >>>>                  }
> >>>>
> >>>> @@ -560,6 +561,14 @@ uint32_t avnd_mds_svc_evt(AVND_CB *cb, M
> >>>>          case NCSMDS_UP:
> >>>>                  switch (evt_info->i_svc_id) {
> >>>>                  case NCSMDS_SVC_ID_AVD:
> >>>> +
> >>>> +                        if ((m_MDS_DEST_IS_AN_ADEST(evt_info->i_dest) 
> >>>> && avnd_cb->cont_reboot_in_progress) &&
> >>>> +                                        
> >>>> (m_NCS_NODE_ID_FROM_MDS_DEST(evt_info->i_dest) == cb->active_avd_adest)) 
> >>>> {
> >>>> +                                memset(&cb->avd_dest, 0, 
> >>>> sizeof(MDS_DEST));
> >>>> +                                evt = avnd_evt_create(cb, 
> >>>> AVND_EVT_MDS_AVD_DN, 0, &evt_info->i_dest, 0, 0, 0);
> >>>> +                                break;
> >>>> +                        }
> >>>> +
> >>>>                          /* create the mds event */
> >>>>                          evt = avnd_evt_create(cb, AVND_EVT_MDS_AVD_UP, 
> >>>> 0, &evt_info->i_dest, 0, 0, 0);
> >>>>                          break;
> >>>> @@ -606,6 +615,8 @@ uint32_t avnd_mds_svc_evt(AVND_CB *cb, M
> >>>>                                  /* Supervise our node local director */
> >>>>                                  if (evt_info->i_node_id != 
> >>>> ncs_get_node_id()) {
> >>>>                                          /* Ignore the other AVD Adest 
> >>>> Down.*/
> >>>> +                                        
> >>>> if(m_NCS_NODE_ID_FROM_MDS_DEST(evt_info->i_dest) == cb->active_avd_adest)
> >>>> +                                                
> >>>> avnd_cb->cont_reboot_in_progress = true;
> >>>>                                          return rc;
> >>>>                                  }
> >>>>                          }
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