Yes, this is required with the current implementation. It might be 
possible to remove this requirement - I will think about how it can be done.

regards,

Anders Widell


On 10/11/2016 09:06 AM, Jianfeng Dong wrote:
> Is it obligatory that controller must have a slower slot_id than payload if 
> we want to enable "headless" feature?
> If it is obligatory, seems it's a big change to our architecture, but I will 
> have a try at least.
>
> Thanks,
> Jianfeng
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anders Widell [mailto:anders.wid...@ericsson.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:30 PM
> To: Jianfeng Dong <jd...@juniper.net>; Neelakanta Reddy 
> <reddy.neelaka...@oracle.com>; opensaf-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [users] OpenSAF release 5.0.1 can not promote SC after enable 
> "headless cluster" feature
>
> There is a one-to-one mapping between /etc/opensaf/slot_id and the node_id. 
> Simply make sure that all your system controller nodes have lower slot_id 
> than any of your payloads. This file is read when the node is booted. You 
> should be able to do an in-service renumbering of your nodes - just be 
> careful so that you never have two nodes with the same node_id at the same 
> time.
>
> Yes, the assumption is there in 5.1.0 as well.
>
> regards,
>
> Anders Widell
>
>
> On 10/11/2016 04:29 AM, Jianfeng Dong wrote:
>> Yes, in our product payload's node_id is lower than SC, could you please 
>> tell us how to configure it?
>>
>> And, does this assumption exist in OpenSAF 5.1.0 as well?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jianfeng
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anders Widell [mailto:anders.wid...@ericsson.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 12:55 AM
>> To: Jianfeng Dong <jd...@juniper.net>; Neelakanta Reddy
>> <reddy.neelaka...@oracle.com>; opensaf-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [users] OpenSAF release 5.0.1 can not promote SC after
>> enable "headless cluster" feature
>>
>> There is a (probably not so well documented :-) assumption that the system 
>> controllers are configured with a lower node_id than the payloads. From what 
>> I can see in the logs you sent, I think it looks like you have configured 
>> the payload with a lower node_id than the system controllers.
>>
>> By the way, the headless feature has been improved in OpenSAF 5.1.0 so I 
>> would suggest that you upgrade to that version if possible.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Anders Widell
>>
>>
>> On 10/10/2016 06:04 PM, Jianfeng Dong wrote:
>>> I tried with sufficient drive space but got same result, neither of the two 
>>> SCs can be promoted to be controller until the payload reboot.
>>>
>>> I also checked the network link between SC and payload, they can PING each 
>>> other when this issue happened. I suspect too the problem is caused by 
>>> IMMD/IMMND link among those nodes, but don't know how to prove it.
>>>
>>> From: Neelakanta Reddy [mailto:reddy.neelaka...@oracle.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 8:39 PM
>>> To: Jianfeng Dong <jd...@juniper.net>;
>>> opensaf-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: Re: [users] OpenSAF release 5.0.1 can not promote SC after
>>> enable "headless cluster" feature
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Once after the "Headless" if any of the controller started then the IMMND 
>>> from the payaload will send the intro message to IMMD.
>>> Looks like this did not happen, the following is the log from the payload:
>>>
>>> 2016-10-10T11:09:18.507851+08:00 pld0101 osafimmnd[3141]: message
>>> repeated 2 times: [ logtrace: write failed, No space left on device]
>>> 2016-10-10T11:09:18.507883+08:00 pld0101 osafimmnd[3141]: NO
>>> Re-introduce-me highestProcessed:23839 highestReceived:23839
>>> 2016-10-10T11:09:18.508011+08:00 pld0101 osafimmnd[3141]: logtrace:
>>> write failed, No space left on device
>>> 2016-10-10T11:09:18.508129+08:00 pld0101 osafimmnd[3141]: logtrace:
>>> write failed, No space left on device
>>> 2016-10-10T11:09:18.508501+08:00 pld0101 osafimmnd[3141]: WA MDS Send
>>> Failed to service:IMMD rc:2
>>>
>>>
>>> Retry, again with the sufficient space in payload.
>>>
>>> /Neel.
>>>
>>> On 2016/10/10 03:59 PM, Jianfeng Dong wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For several years we use OpenSAF(4.5.2 now) to provide HA service in our 
>>> product(including 2 SC and several payload cards), but our customer keep on 
>>> requiring that it's better to do NOT reboot payload card even if both SC 
>>> reload or hang.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We just knew that the new release 5.0.0 has provided this feature(i.e. 
>>> "headless cluster"), so we installed 5.0.0 into our product and enable 
>>> "headless" feature by setting "IMMSV_SC_ABSENCE_ALLOWED" to 900 seconds. 
>>> After installation we found it worked fine, our system with new OpenSAF 
>>> release can start to run successfully, all SC and payload cards can be 
>>> "UP", and payload card will NOT reboot immediately after we reload both SC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However we got a problem that, neither of two SC can't be promoted to be 
>>> controller after reboot until the "headless" payload reboot due to 
>>> 'IMMSV_SC_ABSENCE_ALLOWED' timeout after 900 seconds. Seems OpenSAF modules 
>>> in both SC just wait there and do nothing, till payload reboot due to 
>>> timeout, then OpenSAF in SC continue to run, whole system recovered finally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We thought ticket #1828 may has resolved this issue so we took another try 
>>> with release 5.0.1 but got same result.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you please tell us in our case, why OpenSAF in both SC could not run 
>>> until payload card(in "headless" status) rebooted due to timeout?
>>>
>>> Besides 'IMMSV_SC_ABSENCE_ALLOWED', is there any other variable or 
>>> parameter need to set/modify to enable 'headless cluster' feature? Do we 
>>> miss anything?
>>>
>>> Attachments are the syslog of SC and payload card when this problem 
>>> happened, hope the log files can help us to find out the root cause.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Much appreciated to any comment, thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jianfeng Dong
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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