On Jul 15, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Anders Rundgren wrote:

>  On 2010-07-15 12:24, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 11:50 +0200, Anders Rundgren wrote:
>>> It always felt like a good idea creating a card-edge standard
>>> for tokens that only are used for login etc.
>> IMHO, OTP (One Time Passwords) generators, following OATH standard, is a
>> very nice solution as regards single logon. It cannot be more simple and
>> users don't have to physically connect the token to any hardware.
>> 
> Exactly!  This is why EU banks have [generally] settled on OTP rather than 
> PKI.
With authentication solutions you either roll your own (like OTP tokens) or 
re-use. PKI has in theory better scalability than OTP peering. Rolling out your 
own PKI apparently is more expensive than OTP.


> My intention is making consumer-PKI more realistic by (long-term) eliminating
> the need for proprietary middleware so that PKI-cards become like SIM-cards,
> not forcing consumers to download "drivers".
> 
> MSFT claims that the "MiniDriver" is the solution but the MiniDriver is just
> a thin abstraction of a card-specific interface, not a card-edge standard.  In
> addition, it doesn't support provisioning AFAICT.
Minidriver is a software solution, as good (or bad) as Tokend on OS X.


> Going back to OTP and OATH, the solution I'm working on is targeting this in
> mobile phones since they are everywhere.   It is "only" a de-facto standard
> for getting the OTP seeds on-board that is missing :-)

Have you heard of GBA?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Bootstrapping_Architecture

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Martin Paljak
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