I can see an argument for ESTATE_OWNER and ESTATE_MANAGER being separate categories. I'm assuming that in the viewer estate owners are can also be listed/not listed as estate managers. As Melanie says, we have to be aware that OpenSimulator is trying to accomodate many different use cases.

However, that does not mean that permission categories can be allowed to become a confusing and/or overlapping mess. Whether that is or isn't the case I don't know - this needs to be written out properly on the wiki for all permission types (parcel, estate, etc.) rather than only being embedded within the code.

I see that EstateSettings.IsEstateManager() regards an owner as a manager, whilst OSSL_Api.CheckThreatLevel explicitly does not regards an owner as an ESTATE_MANAGER. This is a contradiction. The code MUST be internally consistent both for sanity's sake and for ANY hope that the code can document itself.

In the first instance, I would want to create EstateSettings.IsEstateManagerOrOwner() and call this where appropriate, with IsEstateManager only returning true for estate managers, as is proper.

On 13/04/12 15:07, Oren Hurvitz wrote:
Regarding estate owner vs. manager: here's the existing implementation of 
EstateSettings.IsEstateManager():

         public bool IsEstateManager(UUID avatarID)
         {
             if (IsEstateOwner(avatarID))
                 return true;

             return l_EstateManagers.Contains(avatarID);
         }

It explicitly adds the estate owner to the list of managers. The permission 
ESTATE_MANAGER should match the method
IsEstateManager(). Therefore, it should include the estate owner.

Oren


On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Melanie-2 [via opensim-dev] <[hidden email]
</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7462795&i=0>> wrote:

    Not so. ESTATE_MANAGER MEANS estate MANAGER. This is intentional. I
    reread the code and found that it already allows a comma separated
    list notation, so you can use ESTATE_OWNER,ESTATE_MANAGER.

    This allows for finer grained control. Please understand that estate
    owners may be significantly different from estate managers, for
    instance in the case of a mainland. This division is useful and,
    again, making changes could cause privilege escalation in some
    grids. So, -1. What you want to achieve can already be achieved.


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