Looks like a good patch to me. I left a few small comments - if you could fix those up and no-one objects I'll be happy
to slap it in. Thanks Gudule.
On 21/04/12 16:21, Gudule Lapointe wrote:
We added a patch to the Mantis.
- Server tries to send Pacific Time daylight saving status to the client,
whatever timezone the system is.
- If failed, falls back to system time zone and logs a warning.
- It does not affect client-side UTC settings like in Imprudence
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5972
I strongly think this is the way to go until custom timezone is actually
implemented. And i'd love it to be implemented.
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Le 19 avr. 2012 à 01:09, Gudule Lapointe a écrit :
My tests and the examples (including OSGrid time) show that the server DO
control DST setting, while it does not
control the other part of the timezone.
And this is why it's a bug. If the client is expecting pacific time and relies
on the server for DST, DST has to be
calculated on Paciifc Time
The "decision" of using UTC is cool, but it has absolutely no effect. I don't
know a grid where UTC is the in-world
time. Imprudence implements it on the client-side only.
So the server must definitively send the info the client is expecting. Until
management of a server-side custom
timezone is implemented.
Sending a Hong Kong daylight saving to a client showing Los Angeles time has
absolutely no sense.
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Le 19 avr. 2012 à 01:03, Robert Klein a écrit :
We decided a long time ago to settle on UTC as the default timezone and it
looks like the Imprudence team added the support to their viewer. Here is
the link to the wiki http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Universal_Time_in_OpenSim
-Robert
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Le 19 avr. 2012 à 00:51, Justin Clark-Casey a écrit :
I can't remember the details but I think this is because it's not something the
server can control - the stock
viewers are hardcoded to pacific time even if they might make some change for
daylight savings.
The imprudence guys implemented another mechanism to change the timezone, I
think.
On 18/04/12 22:31, Fleep Tuque wrote:
I'm not sure why timezone isn't a configurable option in opensim.ini? My campus
grid users don't care about UTC or any
other time zone than our own and what they most need to know is when their
class meets.
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Olivier van Helden <[email protected]
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If it's not a feature, it's a bug!
I made more extensive tests and my conclusion is:
- If I set my server on whatever timezone not using DST, viewer would show PST
in anycase
- If i set it to whatever timezone using DST, viewer would show PDT if
applicable, PST otherwise (SL behaviour)
This is insane: we use a local setting for daylight savings, and a global
hardcoded setting for the hour
This probably means even those using DST will not change at the same time,
depending on which timezone they have.
I filled a Mantis about this
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5972
Le 18 avr. 2012 à 18:24, Gudule Lapointe a écrit :
Not totally exact, Vanish. My tests proved that time info is somewhat send by
the server:
- On Singularity AND Second Life viewer (where timezone was supposed to be
hard-coded), it shows PDT in my grid,
and PST in OSGrid
-> So, times is cleary sent by the server. For viewers listening to that info.
- Imprudence has a setting to choose between PSD/PDT or GMT. If set to PST/PDT,
i still get the same difference
between OSGrid and mine
-> fallback to same conclusion (and imprudence should probably replace "PST/PDT" by
"in-world time" or something
like that)
- If I HG to another grid, my viewer keeps the time from my login grid
-> time is set at login time, depending on login server settings
- In the source code I see at some place that the daylight setting is evaluated.
-> maybe only the use of DST can be set on server
Same question is still left: how?
-> maybe just because osgrid auth server runs on a machine where DST is
disabled?
And it raise a second question: who should adjust this settings, me, or OSGrid?
No kidding: I just checked in Second Life, and time is PDT now, there.
And I noticed several times that when we're in doubt, SL is often the reference.
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Le 18 avr. 2012 à 17:50, Vanish a écrit :
The time is a viewer service, and Imprudence is the only one I know that allows
you to change the timezone to UTC
(optionally) all others display PST (or "Second-Life-time", as it's come to be
called).
I've looked at but not found a solution!
Just noted: for a same instance of OpenSimulator (standalone), Imprudence
displays UTC time and Viewer 3
displays PST.
GCI
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From: Gudule Lapointe
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Subject: [Opensim-users] Timezone
How can I setup grid or region time zone?
I noticed my grid is in PDT, while OSGrid for example is in PST. While my
server runs in CEST
Can't find settings for that anywhere…
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