Jyri Virkki wrote:
> Roland Mainz wrote:
>> Ok... I really tried to mediate a way though this but it seems we're
>> stuck and right now it looks we're getting too much damage...
>>
>> ... here hereby _withdraw_ this ARC case.
> 
> I'm only an observer on this case, but I am an ARC member so have some
> context..
> 
> While withdrawing a case is certainly your call, it would be
> unfortunate if it is - as it seems from the choice of your words above -
> due only to some confusion on ARC process terminology.
> 
> Please note nothing is "stuck" and there is no "damage".  
> 
> People expressing opinions on a mailing list is not damage. None of it
> is binding.

Correct.   As the case owner, I haven't marked the case withdrawn since
the request to do so seems based on a misunderstanding.

One ARC member has asked to call for a vote on whether the case should be
approved as is, or approved with a change to remove the --man/--html/-nroff
options.   So far, I have not seen any other voting ARC members agree that
such a change should be required.   I have seen no one suggest that the
case be denied in any form, just possibly required to be modified.

The only way this project is "stuck" is if the project team decides to
stop where they are instead instead of letting this case go forward.

The only way this project is "damaged" is if the project team decides to
go off and make changes before finding out what the ARC requires.
Frankly, if you implemented the #ifdef SOLARIS changes Garrett required,
I'd call for the ARC to require you to remove them as introducing
unnecessary incompatibilities with other platforms, reducing familiarity
and increasing the cost of ongoing maintenance in having to keep those
patches up to date.

This question needs to be resolved, and sooner is better than later, so
we all know what the path forward is and can stop wasting time debating
it and go do it.   Deferring the question to the next ksh93 ARC case
just increases the uncertainty of that case, and the anxiety of the
people working on it, and doesn't change the basic question of whether
a change to the design is needed or not.

-- 
        -Alan Coopersmith-           alan.coopersmith at sun.com
         Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering


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