On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Garrett D'Amore <gdamore at sun.com> wrote:
> Norm Jacobs wrote:
>>
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm Jacobs <Norm.Jacobs at sun.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Garrett D'Amore" <gdamore at sun.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My only small concern with this project is the name "bsh". ?ISTR being
>>>>>> on other systems where "bsh" meant the "Bourne Shell". ?It seems like
>>>>>> "beansh" might be a better name here to avoid possible confusion. ?But if
>>>>>> this is widely deployed on FOSS already using "bsh", then perhaps we 
>>>>>> ought
>>>>>> to leave the name as is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "bsh" is used by my private shell for a much longer time (since 1984)
>>>>> than people started to use "bsh" for the Bourne Shell. This is why I use
>>>>> "bosh"
>>>>> for my extended Bourne Shell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please use "beansh"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forgive me for pointing out the obvious here, but /usr/bin/bsh on Fedora
>>>> and Ubuntu appear to be BeanShell (I didn't check anywhere else). ?Given
>>>> that this is a familiarity case, wouldn't it make sense to install it in 
>>>> the
>>>> familiar location and have 'bsh' do the familiar thing?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you like to copy this mistake?
>>>
>>
>> Given the imperfection of our world, I'm going to side with what I believe
>> a majority of our customers will expect, so yes.
>
> Okay, I'm going to say three things here:
>
> 1. ?I agree with Joerg that Ubuntu's decision (or possibly other upstream
> sources) to name this "bsh" is probably a mistake, and unfortunate.
>
> 2. However, I agree with Darren and Norm, that the mistake/precedent is
> already set by others (majority rule here), and changing the name will
> probably just serve to increase confusion amongst our users.
>
> 3. ?Finally, +1 to the project as specified.
>

Not sure if this will get out, but just to point out, even Sun's own
documentation (for other products -- often surrounding J2EE IIRC)
refers to bean shell as (bsh) -- it appears to be fairly well known by
that name within the Java community, so it's not really any particular
Linux distro.

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