On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Garrett D'Amore <gdamore at sun.com> wrote: > Norm Jacobs wrote: >> >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >>> >>> Norm Jacobs <Norm.Jacobs at sun.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Joerg Schilling wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Garrett D'Amore" <gdamore at sun.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My only small concern with this project is the name "bsh". ?ISTR being >>>>>> on other systems where "bsh" meant the "Bourne Shell". ?It seems like >>>>>> "beansh" might be a better name here to avoid possible confusion. ?But if >>>>>> this is widely deployed on FOSS already using "bsh", then perhaps we >>>>>> ought >>>>>> to leave the name as is. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "bsh" is used by my private shell for a much longer time (since 1984) >>>>> than people started to use "bsh" for the Bourne Shell. This is why I use >>>>> "bosh" >>>>> for my extended Bourne Shell. >>>>> >>>>> Please use "beansh" >>>>> >>>> >>>> Forgive me for pointing out the obvious here, but /usr/bin/bsh on Fedora >>>> and Ubuntu appear to be BeanShell (I didn't check anywhere else). ?Given >>>> that this is a familiarity case, wouldn't it make sense to install it in >>>> the >>>> familiar location and have 'bsh' do the familiar thing? >>>> >>> >>> Do you like to copy this mistake? >>> >> >> Given the imperfection of our world, I'm going to side with what I believe >> a majority of our customers will expect, so yes. > > Okay, I'm going to say three things here: > > 1. ?I agree with Joerg that Ubuntu's decision (or possibly other upstream > sources) to name this "bsh" is probably a mistake, and unfortunate. > > 2. However, I agree with Darren and Norm, that the mistake/precedent is > already set by others (majority rule here), and changing the name will > probably just serve to increase confusion amongst our users. > > 3. ?Finally, +1 to the project as specified. >
Not sure if this will get out, but just to point out, even Sun's own documentation (for other products -- often surrounding J2EE IIRC) refers to bean shell as (bsh) -- it appears to be fairly well known by that name within the Java community, so it's not really any particular Linux distro.