On 7/18/05, Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gunnar Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Any makefile that uses $< in an explicit rule is dubtlessly broken if it > > > > claims to be portable and authors of free software usually claim to > > > > write portable software. > > > _If_ they claim that. Otherwise they rely on documented behavior of > > > GNU make. This is quite different from "the authors implement code > > > that matches GNU make bugs", as you were writing previously. > > The GNU make documentation claims that $< is the name of the first > > dependency. > >
I have been reading this and watching for days and days now. > so yes, there is a bug here in either GNU make or its documentation. Finally. A simple test case and example. I think in the scientific community this would be referred to as an "experiment" with "observations". There is no real emotion in it unless we are dealing with the cure for cancer or the common cold. > I apologize, but the amount of typos in your texts and the sheer noise > you make about alleged GNU bugs even if all what you have is suspicions > (such as in the discussion about blocking of cpio archives in RPM files > we had on the GNU bug-tar list a few months ago) makes it hard do detect > when you are actually correct. Poor Jörg. I think he may be afflicted with the Casandra complex [1] in which he has created the only distro outside of Sun and vast years ( sorry Jörg ) of experience but he is ignored or attacked. Like Casandra that wandered about the palace telling people about the tragedy that is about to unfold he gets told "you're wrong" or worse. It may be a better idea to simply read what the man says more carefully and then to say "let's create an experimental test case" and test that theory. I don't quite see what you are saying and it must be my fault. Let's test this can we ? That sort of thing. One great tragedy that I can predict is that people ( such as myself ) will simply back away from these discussions and become lurkers or worse, outright avoid the mailing list as it descends into personal bickering and attacks. I am not really technically proficient enough to understand all that is said here. I am happy if I can catch 25% really. For example, I need to get a decent port of the POVRay software done but it has terrible code for the Sparc processors and neatly optimized code for the 486 class architecture. I want to fix that but the assembly code is beyond me really. So I work with people that tell me that I need to "go back to school" and "RTFM" while poking me with a stick. I am okay with that .. no problem. These are people that could care less if the software runs on Sparc or not anyways and they laugh at me because I have some strange religious belief ( one not founded in fact but in faith ? ) that a future multicore UltraSparc machine will most likely kill anything on the market for number crunching ability. At a Toronto Linux convention I had guys telling me that I was some "nut" or "moron" because I asked them to boot my Solaris DVD on their fancy custom "Linux optimized" hardware. No problem, I just stand and smile and shuffle my feet with my hand out holding a small DVD for them to boot please. These are the same people that told me that Sun is dead and I am an idiot for wanting to run Solaris on x86. Back in '86 I had a full main failure of my parachute at 900 feet and survived that without a scratch. So I am okay with someone telling me that I am an idiot or worse, _seeming_ to say that I am an idiot. No injury and not a scratch. You never know, maybe the guy is the equivalent of Bobby Fischer [2] within the realm of chess. He had contempt for the whole human race it is said. To this very day he sticks his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. But no one will sit down and play chess with him either. Eventually you arrive at a place where you realize that despite all your brilliance you just lost the game. There is great talent here. Incredible. There are great egos too. :-) So can we please avoid the tragedy of people bailing out of this mailing list and becoming lurkers or worse, absent? Dennis Clarke Director and Admin for blastwave.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] see http://spiritdimension.com/occult_/051/laurie-layton-schapira-the-cassandra-complex--living-with-disbe.htm for more on that than you want to know [2] http://www.chesscorner.com/worldchamps/fischer/fischer.htm _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
