> Nice. All this for a guy who apparently does not even > know how to admin a unix system (developer?).
It's not unheard of for developers to self-admin their own workstations and sometimes non-production development servers. As long as they're only shooting themselves in the foot, sometimes someperson up the management chain decides it's not worth arguing over. As a developer, that's something I might well want, although there is the point that in general, applications shouldn't need to run as root, nor should they need anything more than a pkgadd as root (which could be done via rbac or sudo calling scripts that limited delegated installation to just authorized application packages) However, unless one's in a shop where 90%+ of those who might admin a system have mostly Linux experience, I think the notion holds that with more than one admin, having anything pertaining to root or any other system accounts using whenever possible the least common denominator of features, or strictly out-of-the-box features (whichever best covers the mix of OSs being administered), would minimize human error, not to mention making it less comfortable to stay root any longer than necessary. > I can see application developers flying over in > droves. While some ease-of-use features may increase the number, I doubt it would turn into a mad rush, since short of Nexenta plus OSS plus one or two other drivers redone to have Linux-like APIs, there would be _some_ nonzero effort required on the part of the developers, and also some nonzero portion of the developers of Linux-based applications are ideologues that wouldn't dream of using anything else. I think a combination of some ease-of-use features (but not to the point of messing it up for the rest of us), some porting and migration guides and assistance (to include access to build servers running both x86 and SPARC, both latest fully supported (i.e. Solaris 10) and something newer and incorporating the ease-of-use stuff, and publicity for all that stuff together and anything else that might help, and just plain patience, would be required; that would eventually bring any of the non-ideologues around that had any reason to bother. The rest, someone who wants the app on Solaris would have to port it, and when distributing the package, add a note to the effect that if you like this, please ask the upstream to accept patches for building on Solaris. Knowing that there was actually some demand, as well as that the initial work was already done and a build environment was available, might appeal to their vanity and reduce their excuses, even if they might not otherwise bother. This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org