--- Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of course we've been rude. We cut up marketing. We tare down > lawyers. We > laugh at executives. We attack other communities and ourselves. > This is > all accepted behavior in the OpenSolaris community. I've even been > told > privately that this is healthy. It's not. I reject it. Now, for > every > foolish thing we say, I can find equally foolish things other > communities (and companies) have said as well. Jim, I respectfully disagree with you: It's messy, it's disorganized, it's confusing and it's not summarized in an executive statement, but all the wrangling is completely healthy. > But what I do find fascinating is that for all the attacks on > marketing, > the marketing list is generally flame-less. And so is the user > group > community list. That's one of the reasons I suggested merging those > > communities. I felt that there was a lot of overlap in those > communities > in terms of people and in terms of issues, so why not combine > forces and > expand our voice? Imagine a community where attacks are /not/ > acceptable > and outside the norm. That's my vision for the Advocacy CG. This is not The Stepford Wives, or rather, The Stepford Programmers. Marketing and Legal do not a working distro make. That takes geeks who stay up late worrying about arcane, wizardish, fiendishly complex issues and who, out of their love for mankind and the semi-weekly paycheck, work hard at solving these unsurmountable problems. That these same people don't have the polish and gentle demeanor of ivy-league graduates should not surprise you. These people were outcasts in general society, preferring the dank dungeons of solitude to pep rallies and after-parties. You get them talking about their trade, and the uninitiated will be greeted by unseemly grunts and scratching of beards, and will not understand that the jabbing and eye-poking and name-calling is the way these cave-dwellers communicate most effectively. Of course, the sophisticated society would love to never have to encounter much less discuss anything with these programmers, but then they'd have to settle for no software being written. Maybe now you'll understand the saying that managing people is like herding cats: it's messy, and there's a lot of yelling involved, and an occasional boot in the back of the pants. Welcome to open-source software development. Chris Mahan 818.943.1850 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.christophermahan.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
