* UNIX admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > You need to seriously re-examine that "network is the
> > computer" chant, and how well it jives with the
> > world you've described... where you've robbed the
> > average person of their computing power -- and their
> > choice -- simply because they're not an expert with
> > the OS *at hand*.  "The network is the video cable"
> >  you mean, perhaps?
> 
> Why are we still slaving to the notion that just because something is
> a server, it *must* be on the internet?
> 
> Well, why must it be on the Internet?  Can't we have a server that
> sits in a living room or in a closet or in the basement, which stores
> all our data on encrypted disks, centrally, secured by ZFS?  Which
> contains all our applications, that enable us to manage our data,
> photos, movies, music, documents?  Which provides applications in the
> forms of http:// URIs and enables us to do the exact same things we
> previously needed to install applications for on disparate systems?
> Why couldn't it stream all this data to several clients around the
> house at the same time?
> 
> And why must we slave to the dogma of a beige-box PC with an "OS" and
> "a desktop" with a bunch of clicky-bunty icons - ancient stuff
> invented almost 30 years ago that no longer even *fits* the way we
> live and use computers?  Why can't the desktop dogma be challenged?
> 
> Why must we keep trying to fit square pegs into round holes, why, why,
> why?
> 
> When and how are we going to move on, if challenging the computing
> dogma is *unthinkable*?

When you can convince the rest of the planet that your way of thinking
is something worth pursuing.  In all seriousness, good luck with that.
I personally don't see it coming to fruition in my lifetime.  It's only
recently that Havoc Pennington over at RedHat has started talking about
"something" like this (online desktop).

The trend in recent years is to make computers more accessible to users
(it's always been a goal for general-purpose OSes like Windows and
MacOS, it's being taken up by more UNIX and UNIX-like OSes).  The
marketplace doesn't want to have to rely on someone with a phD to
administer/use UNIX and UNIX-like systems.  Plus, if you want to win
marketshare away from Windows or MacOS then you have to compete on their
terms.  You have to make things simple and "just work".  Linux
distributions are doing this (and have been doing this).  They are
(slowly) converting people who otherwise wouldn't have known what UNIX
or Linux was.  OpenSolaris wants in on that action.  Sun certainly does
(it's only to Sun's benefit to increase the OpenSolaris user base).  In
order to do so, you have to make things more usable for the "non-geek"
user.

Let's not exclude people/users just because they don't get a kick out of
typing in arcane commands to get things done.  Making things "easier"
and more "usable" by non-traditional system administrators/users can
only benefit us in the long run.  It will make things easier for the
traditional system administrator/user and thus free up their time to
hack on even more things.  Granted there is a fine line to be drawn in
order to make things easier while not hamstringing seasoned
admins/users.  But it should be doable.

My .02

-- 
Glenn
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