Hi Cyril,

> Hi Milan,
> 
> On 8/6/07, Milan Jurik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Did you look at RFEs? Did you look at PSARCs? Did you look at projects
> > on opensolaris.org? And can you show me some really big project where
> > all developers are informing community about their actual work and
> > future plans?
> 
> Umm, Linux ?

Are you sure about this? I spent lots of time in lkml... Lots of patches
(even bigger) are comming "from sky".

>  In fact in the open source world it is a matter of etiquette.

Why? Why should he publish all his steps? He can go and develop
something himself, because he prefers to spend some time just with "his
code". Not all are "exhibicionists" (please, read this word in positive
way, or just say that I'm Czech who doesn't know English very
well :-) ).

> Working privately is one's choice, of course. However, it would demonstrate
> a disrespect to the rest of the community. Why ? Because at the end of the
> work one will, essentially, throw the code over the wall.
> 

Disrespect? Because you want to publish something really working, not
just some skeleton? Are you publishing all your "everyday" changes?
Could you respect that some developers prefer to "work in bigger steps"
and not consulting their everyday steps with others? It is normal even
in companies.

> > Please, leave the decision about their openness on developers. Some
> > prefer public development (lots of Sun employee), some are working in
> > their own workspaces (lots of Sun employee).
> 
> We (community) cannot decide for Sun employees how to do their
> work for Sun. Nonetheless we can create rules for work integrated
> into OpenSolaris. I think it is fair.
> 

Of course. Could you specify one example of rule which will prohibit the
integration that somebody is working in his own workspace and going to
public just before integration or ARC, please? It is his decision to do
it in this way. And potentially very dangerous, because:

a) his work must not be accepted by others, as he implemented something
in "unpopular" way

b) somebody will implement it quicker

c-d-e-f-...) add your own points here

Is his contribution worse because he decided to not communicate
frequently?

> > You want just big amount of paperwork from us ;-) I hope the community
> > is not my second manager asking for weekly reports...
> 
> That strange conclusion. How did you get to it ?
> 

And what are you asking for in "wpi cases"?

And btw. I added some "hints" how to receive FEM API to my previous
e-mail, the main topic of this thread.

Why are you complaining here? What are you expecting? That our CEO will
go and push us in some way? Are you sure that this will make Sun
engineers happy members of opensolaris community? We are just people,
people with e-mail addresses ;-)

Best regards,

Milan

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