Hi,

I think I can clear some of this up. Below are all the current and future 
virtualization products from Sun:

1. Dynamic System Domains (hardware partitions) E10k, E3800-25K, M4k-M9k
2. Logical Domains (para-virtualization) UltraSPARC-T1 and UltraSPARC-T2 (in 
the future ROCK) based servers. Here's a list of those systems today: 
http://www.sun.com/servers/index.jsp?cat=CoolThreads%20Servers&tab=3&subcat=UltraSPARC%20T2%20and%20T1
3. Solaris Containers (OS virtualization) runs on Solaris 10 and above on 
either SPARC or x86/x64
4. xVM Server (Xen - para-virtualization/full-virtualization) runs on Solaris 
10 U5 and above on x86/x64
5. xVM Opscenter is a management tool that'll manage containers, LDoms, and xVM 
Server.
6. VirtualBox (QEMU based - full-virtualization) runs on OpenSolaris, Linux, 
and MacOSX only on x86/x64. More info here: 
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox

Now for your Ultra10, out of the box you can do Solaris Containers and resource 
management. To run Linux x86 or Windows, you would need something like QEMU or 
a SunPCI3 card which is an x86 PC on a PCI card. That card is no longer sold by 
Sun, but you can find them on Ebay cheap. QEMU is pure emulation in software, 
so it's not very fast.

The price of T1000's are coming down, but are still not cheap enough for home 
use (around $2800 right now.. wish I could afford one). But if you could afford 
one, you could have multiple guest domains running different versions of 
Solaris 10 or OpenSolaris. You could even have some of them running Ubuntu 
Linux for SPARC. 

Beyond that, for home use an x86/x64 box would probably be more interesting and 
cheaper for you. You could load Solaris Express and use the xVM server 
component (Xen) to create VM's for running Linux, Windows, and of course 
Solaris.

 
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----- Original Message ----
From: W. Wayne Liauh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 5:23:27 AM
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Virtualization (xVM vs VirtualBox)

> Is xVM an alias for VirtualBox, or are these two
> similar Sun products?
> 
> The website makes it difficult to understand what xVM
> actually does.
> There's so much cloudy abstract marketing, and after
> being able to
> navigate to some text for technical consumption, xVM
> is being
> presented as some kind of virtual /storage/, rather
> than a virtual
> machine.
> 
> To get to my main question, what free tools can I use
> to make an Ultra
> 10 run Solaris 10 (or OpenSolaris) along with Linux?
>  Or Windows*?
> * I don't really care to run Windows.. but the
> marketing pages claimed
> it is possible.. which implies that either x86
>  w/BIOS are being
> emulated (on top of the virtualization), or the
>  Windows target is
>  only available on x86 machines.
> ______________________________________________

I think with Sparc CMT processors ( T1 & T2) , you can run LDOM's.  There is 
also QEMU for Sparc, which you can try to compile yourself.  This is the best 
shot, to the best of my knowledge, which is next to nothing, to run Linux and 
Windows emulations in Sparc.

Now part of Sun's very ambitious xVM family, VirtualBox is a level 2 
virturalization (i.e., no hypervisor virturalization) and share some code with 
qemu. It may eventually be able to run Linux/Windows emulations.  But it may 
not.

As you can see, I have already exhausted the little knowledge I have.  You 
should re-post your question(s) at the xen forum:

http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=53
 
 
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