> And now those employees talk about 'fork'.
> During their working hours at whatever the company
> is?

I believe I was the first to write that I will fork OpenSolaris should I 
perceive the need to do so.
I am not, and have never been an employee of Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Also, you are assuming that I'm writing this during my work, which might or 
might not be correct, but is nevertheless an assumption.

May I remind you that engineers don't work with assumptions, unless they have 
no other choice; we (myself included) work primarily with facts, empirical 
evidence, when it is available.

> If one wanted to combat any takeover, firstly the
> product has to improve (I leave out the long list of
> grouses on basic functionality, for the time being.).

For your information, I've taken the latest-and-greatest revision of Ubuntu 
Linux for a spin, and am happy to experience that it is not all that better or 
more polished than Solaris, Ubuntu lacking basic functionality (like installing 
directly on XFS / from LiveCD, or the "network manager" behaving unreliably and 
inconsistenly, forcing me to configure networking from the CLI.

I'm happy to report that Solaris is fixing important and critical  issues 
faster than the competition (XFS / is a known issue since at least 8.04, so far 
Solaris has had the most critical and panic causing issues fixed.)

> Then, with the type of managers this company had to
> make with through the last decade, there is no
> future. Because there is no resolve, no vision, and
> mostly backtracking and reversals.

There I cannot help but fully agree with you; if anything, Sun's management 
needs to be CLEANED OUT. With no mercy and no remorse.

> Jonathan seems to have done more damage
> than good. Sun can exist and survive, but needs a
> change of guard.

Forget Jonathan, the guy is small potatoes. The people that really need fired 
is the whole middle management; and let the team leads finally be able to do 
their jobs!
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