2010/4/4 Мартин Бохниг   (Martin Bochnig) <mar...@martux.org>:
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Volker A. Brandt <v...@bb-c.de> wrote:
>> Hello HeCSa!
>>
>>
>>> I (we) sent emails to the "assigned" Oracle employee to deal with the
>>> communities, but didn't receive an answer in more than a month, or maybe
>>> more time.
>>
>> Have you tried emailing Jimm Grisanzio, or someone from the OGB?
>>
>> This sounds more like a communications problem.
>>
>>
>> Regards -- VOlker
>
>
>
> Now you are getting too Oracle-friendly.
> While it is indeed nonsense to bash Oracle based on rumors and FUD,
> this time you are going too far to the opposite end (not every of
> their PR-statements might turn out to be the truth).

Oracle haven't made many statements so far, but I have yet to see
one that was untrue.

> Did you notice? Their first move after the takeover was to lay-off Sun
> open-source officer Simon Phipps. Can you explain this with your
> logics from above? How would you?

I believe Simon quit. And Oracle have kept most of the engineering
organization intact; development work seems to continue to be active.

> Another thing which makes me really wonder is all the silence that
> (does not) go(es) out from the newly elected OGB. And they don´t need
> to be afraid of losing their jobs, because almost all of them either
> never had a Sun position, or quit Sun long ago. Why this silence from
> *them*??

Frankly, because we don't know either. And we've managed to get more
information and commitments out of Oracle than I think they would have
issued on their own. Also, the new OGB has been in office maybe three
days, and we haven't yet had a formal meeting.

> Back to the OpenSolaris 2010.03 delay: If really just a technical
> stopper is the reason for the delay, then it could be a thing as
> simple as converting all vendor and license strings from Sun to
> Oracle. On caiman this was webref´ed last week. Plus getting a fancy
> Oracle backdrop in red, plus a new Grub- and bootup- screen etc, plus
> the opensolaris.com website   ... etc.
>
> The question is IF. And WHY all the silence and secrecy??

Sun had a corporate culture that was very open and emphasized
communication. (Too much talk, too little profit, to be honest)

Oracle's corporate culture seems to be entirely the opposite. And not
only is the culture orders of magnitude more secretive, but I think the
newly acquired Sun employees are still adjusting.

I have no more idea what the release date is than anybody else. But
there have been absolutely clear public commitments that there will be
a release, and the only official statement on the date I've seen is that it
will be in the first half of calendar year 2010. (If people have been paying
attention they may have seen the term 2010.H1 used in places.)

-- 
-Peter Tribble
http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/
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