Deal OpenSolaris discuss mail list :

Very early this morning, about 4AM or so, I was working on various
software bits and also reading emails while stirring coffee. I tend to
get up early or am still up from the previous night :-) nurturing
builds or releases or whatever needs to be done. I posted two replies
to the OpenSolaris Discuss list and both were stopped, held for
moderator approval. I therefore attach them both here with a link to
the first email on this list from the public archives.

I therefore unsubscribe from this list as well as any email aliases
that I may have at this point.

I am still on the OGB related lists ( and a few others ) until the
16th of August at least.

-- 
Dennis Clarke   dcla...@blastwave.org

===== Messages that were held this morning at 5AM ======

Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro, teamwork and being clear
From: "Dennis Clarke" <dcla...@blastwave.org>
Date: Thu, July 22, 2010 04:24
To: "Ken Gunderson" <kgund...@teamcool.net>
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Gunderson <kgund...@teamcool.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro, teamwork and being clear
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
> +1 from me as well.  Sometime back I communicated same to Joerg
> privately.  I don't code but am fairly seasoned sysadmin so there's
> bound to be some thankless but necessary dirty work along those lines
> that needs doing.  If so, feel free to give me a holler.

Here is a thankless task, you will love it. :-)

There were changes in the usr/src/cmd/sgs/rtld area just recently and
I see in the README file that is says this :

  The SUNWonld package is an internal development package containing the
  link-editors and some related tools.  All components live in the OSNET
  source base, but not all components are delivered as part of the normal
  OSNET consolidation.  The intent of this package is to provide access
  to new features/bugfixes before they become generally available.

  General link-editor information can be found:

    http://linkers.central/
    http://linkers.sfbay/       (also known as linkers.eng)

  Comments and Questions:

    Contact Rod Evans, Ali Bahrami, and/or Seizo Sakurai.


Of course those links are internal addresses inside the Oracle pits
and not avail to the "community". This is primarily because there is
no open source concept inside there and these people don't even think
in terms of "community" and docs and information is not going to be
posted in place where people can get to. Why? Who cares why.  I don't.


If you want a thankless job maybe you could drag these people out into
the light of the opensolaris-discuss list and perhaps get them to
explain whats up with these changes and where are those docs for the
community ?

It is interesting to see this however :

----------------------------------------
Solaris 10 XXXX (10th Q-update - s10u10)
----------------------------------------
Bugid   Risk Synopsis
================================================================================
6478684 isainfo/cpuid reports pause instruction not supported on amd64
        PSARC/2010/089 Removal of AV_386_PAUSE and AV_386_MON
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All the above changes are incorporated in the following patches:
        Solaris/SunOS 5.10_sparc        patch TXXXXXX-XX
        Solaris/SunOS 5.10_x86          patch TXXXXXX-XX
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Update 10 ? Really ?

The marketing people at ORacle are worse than the ones at Sun. We have
no clue when an update is coming or a damn thing but at least there
are readme files that leak out from time to time.

> P.S.; Dennis, it would also be great if whatever you're using to
> respond didn't break/divide the threads.

Sorry about that ... I have a new postfix server going in soon and
then I'll switch over to thunderbird/seamonkey permanently.

Dennis


Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro, teamwork and being clear
From: "Dennis Clarke" <dcla...@blastwave.org>
Date: Thu, July 22, 2010 04:35
To: "me" <bsdphrea...@yahoo.com>
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

----- Original Message -----
From: me <bsdphrea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro, teamwork and being clear
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org


> AH HA +1 Let me know if I can help anywhere on the project. I have
> contacted one person already that has blown the community rally bugle.

One of the things I gather from looking at the README for rtld is that
there never will be a OpenSolaris release in 2010 and there was one
planned at all.

See :
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/sgs/packages/common/SUNWonld-README

Note that there is specific references to Solaris 8 and Solaris 10
update 10 and Nevada and even Solaris Nevada (OpenSolaris 2009.06,
snv_111) but there is no such thing as OpenSolaris 2010.xx and there
never will be.

Anything we have heard about a 2010 release of OpenSolaris is just a
pack of lies.

Prove me wrong if you can.

> Actually I kinda liked the GUI from SXCE, I can find a replacement
> graphic for the menu button :)

I am not a fan of GNOME.  That was some internal idea by some Sun
folks probably because of all the C++ lib issues they have with KDE.

However XFCE is nice and small and lightweight.

Dennis
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