AIX folks are rather rare to run into. In the US, you'll find more AIX in the 
north mid-west and east coast. In those cases, a lot of them are insurance, 
manufacturing, or financial services (getting rare in FS these days though). 
Most shops that have AIX are really legacy mainframe shops that have a long 
standing relationship with IBM. It is very rare to find a non-IBM shop that 
decides out the the blue (no pun intended) to bring AIX inhouse. I am seeing 
new 
interests in AIX, but most of it is focused on consolidating AIX into smaller 
and smaller foot-prints. The same kind of thinking has been going on for the 
past 10 years in the mainframe space, which makes sense because of how small 
the 
frames are getting these days. Holding onto AIX talent is a huge challenge for 
AIX shops. In one of the banks I use to work for, they had a small amount of 
AIX 
servers to manage and finding enough qualified folks to manage them was 
extremely hard.

Another UNIX that's having issues is HP-UX. Most shops I've worked for or done 
consulting work for have killed off their HP-UX installs or are in the last 
throws of tossing them. I've only run into a few mid-west insurance companies 
that have HP-UX. It seems that the move to Itanium really didn't help out the 
HP-UX cause and the lack of HP development doesn't help either. It's kinda 
shocking to think that HP-UX is still on version 11 after all these years. 


Things are even worse for Tru64 after HP bought out Compaq. That's one platform 
that until recent years was way ahead of its time with the Alpha processor, 
TruCluster, AdvFS, and of course being completely 64-bit clean. Sadly HP didn't 
know what to do with the platform at all and it's dead.

So it's really up to Solaris and AIX to carry the torch for UNIX. We should all 
be happy that Solaris was open sourced and now we have lots of distributions 
that will carry it's history on regardless of what happens at Oracle. I'm very 
confident that Oracle will make Solaris successful and invest more into it.

FYI, at LISA this year there is a whole track on Solaris 11 Express;) 

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Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant
Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com
E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com
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----- Original Message ----
From: Erik Trimble <erik.trim...@oracle.com>
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 5:31:44 AM
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

On 10/30/2010 2:52 AM, Kees Nuyt wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:49:22 -0700, you wrote:
> 
>> That said, AIX admins are rare, and will become and endangered species
>> soon. Particularly, anyone under 40 at this time. I'd be willing to bet
>> that there aren't more than 100 people world-wide born after 1980 who
>> could actually lay claim to being a serious AIX admin.
> Depends of what 'serious' means. All three AIX specialists
> in my 2nd line Unix Support support team are under 40. Three
> of the AIX specialists in our peer Project / 3rd line
> support team are under 40.
> And this isn't a very large company.
(I'm sure they'd count - but, are they under 30?).

That's, well, amazing.  After being out here in San Francisco for 12+ years, I 
have yet to meet an AIX person younger than me. And I turn 40 soon.  All the 
places AIX seems to remain (insurance, finance, even a little biotech) have 
senior woolly-bearded folks looking after the AIX boxen.  Perhaps my 
generalization is only valid for the US.  (and, not just Silicon Valley. I know 
enough folks in the various other major IT markets here to think that AIX is 
well on the way to being just a legacy system OS).

Anyhow, the point here was that if you want your OS to remain relevant for 
anything other than a tiny niche market, you need to get it in front of the 
young.  Otherwise, the only way they'll learn it is via happenstance, and 
that's 
not a good way to grow a business.



-- Erik Trimble
Java System Support
Mailstop:  usca22-123
Phone:  x17195
Santa Clara, CA

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