Ok, I think that PKCS7 accepts both DER and BER.

So I suppose that the verImpl.txt is perfectly legal. Right?

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> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: ASN1 implicit/explicit tagging
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>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003, Pierre De Boeck wrote:
>
> >     Hi all,
> >
> > I have 2 versions of a DER-encoded pkcs7-enveloped-data and I would
> > like to know which one is correct:
> >
> > I have attached their printable parsed form and they only differ
> > in one point, namely at the
> > EnvelopedData.encryptedContentInfo.encryptedContent component:
> >
> > - the verExpl.txt encodes it as
> > [0] {
> >  368 04 1312:           OCTET STRING
> >             :             FE FE 9F 9C C5 C7 FC 28 FD B0 BA 4B
> 08 AF AD 3C
> >             :             E3 05 A6 89 FF 8A 9A C7 48 FC CC 7B
> 98 31 DA 3D
> >             :             F0 6A 82 6B 7A 47 32 53 F5 C6 F1 39
> 6B 77 C6 FE
> >             :             8E B0 01 F4 15 9C 51 4A 72 12 71 51
> 5C 10 BC D4
> >             :             9E F4 AD E5 B3 B1 B9 7F D5 26 BD E1
> 44 13 24 DD
> >             :             30 A1 32 63 2D 65 B6 71 64 09 52 32
> 0D FB 6A 65
> >             :             8F 71 86 72 C3 13 61 37 F4 EF E6 73
> 92 DB F5 7E
> >             :             23 79 82 64 C6 4A 7B 3F BD 3A F6 6B
> C9 EE A9 14
> >             :                     [ Another 1184 bytes skipped ]
> >             :           }
> >
> > while the verImpl.txt encodes it as
> > [0]
> >             :           19 83 FD 11 13 B8 20 3C ED C9 CB B7 3F 06 97 3B
> >             :           46 C7 03 09 FE 24 B8 7B 1D B7 DD F6 05 68 81 85
> >             :           B4 21 70 95 6B AB A7 33 54 77 00 F5 D7 CC FC 5F
> >             :           18 47 7E 63 41 94 22 A9 C7 5C 56 09 89 49 BD C7
> >             :           67 D8 9B 48 82 B7 4B 64 F8 D9 11 F3 F8 AE 04 81
> >             :           E7 C1 4F 37 F0 37 36 D0 A3 B1 A9 DB 67 09 C1 64
> >             :           B6 E0 4B 2D 2A D6 47 2C 24 49 D5 7A 5E 4B 6F FF
> >             :           0E 6E 8B D8 8E 58 85 E9 76 41 02 7D A1 A3 D4 AD
> >             :                   [ Another 1192 bytes skipped ]
> >
> > If I check the grammar of that objetct ([0] IMPLICIT EncryptedContent
> > OPTIONAL),
> > it seems that it is the verImpl.txt that is correct since
> IMPLICIT tagging
> > is used.
> >
> > Am I correct?
> >
>
> Well yes and no. If it was an IMPLICIT and EXPLICIT issue then
> yes it should
> be IMPLICIT. However from your attachment:
>
>
> >  366 A0 NDEF:         [0] {
> >  368 04 1312:           OCTET STRING
> >             :             FE FE 9F 9C C5 C7 FC 28 FD B0 BA 4B
> 08 AF AD 3C
> >             :             E3 05 A6 89 FF 8A 9A C7 48 FC CC 7B
> 98 31 DA 3D
> >             :             F0 6A 82 6B 7A 47 32 53 F5 C6 F1 39
> 6B 77 C6 FE
> >             :             8E B0 01 F4 15 9C 51 4A 72 12 71 51
> 5C 10 BC D4
> >             :             9E F4 AD E5 B3 B1 B9 7F D5 26 BD E1
> 44 13 24 DD
> >             :             30 A1 32 63 2D 65 B6 71 64 09 52 32
> 0D FB 6A 65
> >             :             8F 71 86 72 C3 13 61 37 F4 EF E6 73
> 92 DB F5 7E
> >             :             23 79 82 64 C6 4A 7B 3F BD 3A F6 6B
> C9 EE A9 14
> >             :                     [ Another 1184 bytes skipped ]
>
> The first thing to notice here is that NDEF. This is therefore not DER but
> BER: NDEF is not allowed in DER.
>
> That might indeed be an explicitly tagged octet string with an
> indefinte length
> construted outer tag enclosing a definite length octet string.
> That would be
> wrong, however I'd say that isn't the case here.
>
> What IMHO is much more likely is that it is an implicitly tagged
> indefinite
> length *constructed* octet string which would be perfectly acceptable.
>
> It isn't actually possible to distinguish between the two because
> they both
> have the same encoding.
>
> So the probable answer to you question is that if DER is not
> compulsory then
> both are correct.
>
> Steve.
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