darn patents..

IANAPL, but a quick search shows a
Brickell/Gordon/McCurley/Wilson paper that mentions
indeed similar stuff. They do however, mention the
simple precompute g^(2^i) method my patch uses in a
reference to a 1985 Ryo Fuji-Hara japanese paper. That
can't be patented anymore, if ever, can it?

Then Brickell et al. go on and do smarter things that
they probably did patent (using DARPA money?!).

marius

--- "Dr. Stephen Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 16, 2004, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
> wrote:
> 
> > In message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:02:28 -0800 (PST), Marius
> Schilder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > 
> > marius_schilder> Any chance a patch like this can
> make it into the
> > marius_schilder> dist, eventually?
> > 
> > Not chance for the 0.9.7 series, since it changes
> a public structure.
> > For 0.9.8, I'm gonna leave it to others to decide.
> > 
> 
> It could probably be handled without any
> incompatible changes (or indeed any
> changes at all) to the relevant structures.
> 
> I did some studies of precomputation for DSA some
> time ago. You can get some
> spectacular increases in speed for signing
> operations (10X seemed quite
> possible) at the expense of using large lookup
> tables (some running into
> several Mb).
> 
> I believe however that a lot of this stuff is
> patented. The more obvious
> techniques certainly: I think this patch uses one of
> those. That in itself
> isn't a showstopper since we've included patented
> code before and we'd just
> need an option to exclude it.
> 
> There may be less obvious techniques that can
> provide comparable performance
> improvements that are not patented. The EC code for
> example uses
> precomputation. If one of those could be used it
> would be better.
> 
> Steve.
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