Hi, I just realized that may be DTLSv1_get_timeout and handle timeout is important because when server sends Server Hello we need to get back the response in time out. Is that right understanding ? If that is the case then in select I can not mix other fds as the may get activity before timeout of DTLS.
So how do we handle this ? --Nilesh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nilesh Vaghela" <nvagh...@stratacache.com> To: "Robin Seggelmann" <seggelm...@fh-muenster.de> Cc: openssl-dev@openssl.org Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 8:15:03 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: DTLSv1_listen in non-blocking Thanks Robin. Just wanted to give additional information that I am not implementing multi-threaded server as there can be thousands of connections. Having said that I would have to use select for both the fds (one listen socket and many connected sockets). With this model, do I still have to handle DTLS timers ? The way I was thinking of implementing is to have read interest on the listen fd and when it gets triggered call DTLSv1_listen and of it returns -1 then keep the interest and call DTLSv1_listen again when read fd is triggered. At the same time I would also have other connected fds in the (read/write) fdset for select. Will this works like that ? --Nilesh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Seggelmann" <seggelm...@fh-muenster.de> To: "Nilesh Vaghela" <nvagh...@stratacache.com> Cc: openssl-dev@openssl.org Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:21:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: DTLSv1_listen in non-blocking Hi Nilesh, On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Nilesh Vaghela wrote: > I am using DTLSv1_listen in non-blocking underlying socket layer. I am using > openssl-0.9.8o and I looked at the implementation. Don't use any 0.9.8 release if you want to work with DTLS. There are a *lot* of bugs which are fixed in 1.0.0a and later. > int dtls1_listen(SSL *s, struct sockaddr *client) > { > int ret; > > SSL_set_options(s, SSL_OP_COOKIE_EXCHANGE); > s->d1->listen = 1; > > ret = SSL_accept(s); > if (ret <= 0) return ret; > > (void) BIO_dgram_get_peer(SSL_get_rbio(s), client); > return 1; > } > > Does this mean that we do not have to call SS_accept after DTLSv1_listen() > returns with 1. And if it returns -1 withSSL_ERROR_WANT_READ or > SSL_ERROR_WANT_WRITE > then we call again till we get the connection established ? My understanding > was that we have to do SSL_accept on a connected socket so that SSL handshake > happens > separately(certificate/key exchange) and listen socket only receives > ClientHello, sends Helloverify Request and receives ClientHelloWithCookie. Since there is no accept() for UDP, you need to handle incoming connections otherwise. The DLTSv1_listen() call waits for incoming connections and responds to ClientHellos with a ServerHello including a cookie. It discards any other message and does not allocate any memory. If a client responds to the ServerHello correctly, that is resends its ClientHello with the cookie attached, it returns 1. The SSL object can then be used to handle the connection to that client (in a new thread). To do this, the socket should be set 'connected'. However, the handshake has not been completed yet, only the Hellos have been exchanged. Therefore, you still have to call SSL_accept() to complete the handshake. Meanwhile, the listen has to be called with a new SSL object to watch for other new connections. If you are non-blockig and it returns -1, just call it again. This is the only way you can write a multi-threaded server which also performs the cookie exchange to avoid denial of service attacks. The examples at http://sctp.fh-muenster.de show how its done correctly. For non-blocking implementations, make sure you handle DTLS timers. Use DTLSv1_get_timeout(SSL *ssl, struct timeval *timeleft) to get the time until the next timeout (you can use that for a select() timeout) and call DTLSv1_handle_timeout(SSL *ssl) when a timeout occurred and there is nothing to read or write, so retransmissions of handshake messages etc. can still be done. > In some examples on web we see that we do call SSL_accept() after > DTLSv1_listen returns with 1. But I looked at s_server.c in the openssl > sources, it does not even call DTLSv1_listen(). How do I understand this ? The s_server code has not been modified to support DTLS cookies correctly or multiple connections. It's basically a TLS server which can also use DTLS. Best regards Robin