From: Richard Levitte <[email protected]>

> There is some similar package for Perl, isn't there?  Is that very
> much of a pain?  [...]

   I expect it to be one more thing which many people won't have.  I
seem to have a Compaq/HP-sourced v5.8.6 ("Compiled at Mar  6 2008
06:07:12"), and newer stuff is probably available, but a quick search
finds much old stuff.  Of course, the tests currently expect perl,
right?  (And what I have seems to work.)  And "bc", if you want to do
the big-number tests without dragging a non-VMS system into the act. 
Hence:

      http://antinode.info/dec/sw/bc.html

> I'm behind on things, it seems...  there are symlinks in VMS these
> days?

   Since V8.3, at least (which is at least seven years old), but V8.4
may have fewer bugs.

>   That must have happened while I looked away...  did you extract
> the "tar" kit with some other tool than the trusty old VMSTAR, or has
> VMSTAR learned to handle symlinks?  I haven't looked at VMSTAR in
> ages, but back when I tinkered with it, it didn't have that
> capability.

   Define "trusty old".  I adopted VMSTAR about seven years ago, adding
basic symlink support then.  It's been better than completely lame (I
claim) since about 2011.  That's pretty old, and I tend to trust it.

      http://antinode.info/dec/sw/vmstar.html

   Zip 3.0 and UnZip 6.00 (and up, also not very new) on VMS can handle
them, too.

> My absolutely first aim with this effort is exactly to not having to
> do the silly update of modules in the DCL scripts any more.  The
> information is already there in the Makefiles, there's really no good
> reason why the information should be duplicated like it currently is.

   Except that nothing on VMS can use those Makefiles directly.  So the
question becomes how to derive anything which _is_ useful on VMS from
the normal source kit.  With the auxiliary question being _what_ to
derive (.COM or .MMS, or ???).  It's very clear that getting the module
lists from any files which _are_ maintained would be nice, but what to
do with them is less clear (to me).

   SMS.
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