So, if it’s “mandatory”, then it should be in the default set of ciphers, not 
necessarily the “HIGH” set.

I’m selecting “HIGH” because I want 128-bit+ ciphers, not a cipher that that 
has subsequently found to be weaker than previously thought.
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On Feb 12, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Viktor Dukhovni 
<openssl-us...@dukhovni.org<mailto:openssl-us...@dukhovni.org>> wrote:


On Feb 12, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Salz, Rich 
<rs...@akamai.com<mailto:rs...@akamai.com>> wrote:

So is RC4 and we don't see that as HIGH. HIGH implies strength, not MTI-ness.

Now let's not make stuff up:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5246#section-9

9.  Mandatory Cipher Suites

  In the absence of an application profile standard specifying
  otherwise, a TLS-compliant application MUST implement the cipher
  suite TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (see Appendix A.5  for the
  definition).

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4346#section-9

9. Mandatory Cipher Suites

  In the absence of an application profile standard specifying
  otherwise, a TLS compliant application MUST implement the cipher
  suite TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2246#section-9

9. Mandatory Cipher Suites

  In the absence of an application profile standard specifying
  otherwise, a TLS compliant application MUST implement the cipher
  suite TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA.

Since many users enable just HIGH ciphers, they must not exclude the MTI
ciphers.

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