Hi all!

> Many public CAs suggest Extended Validation for certificates 
> of web servers. [...] I had a talk with a specialist 
> of technical support of Thawte [...] He also refused 
> to answer how browser determines what bar to display - 
> green or yellow?

See thawte Certification Practice Statement, Version 3.3[1], at
page 96 in the PDF (section D. EV CERTIFICATE CONTENT AND PROFILE)

    7. EV Certificate Policy Identification Requirements

    (a) EV Subscriber Certificates

    Each EV Certificate issued by thawte to a Subscriber will
    include thawte's EV OID in the certificate's certificatePolicies
    extension. thawtes EV OID used for this purpose is
    2.16.840.1.113733.1.7.48.1

Wikipedia has a list with links to other CA EV OIDs in the page
Extended_Validation_Certificate[2].

Interesting would be to have some non-Thawte certificate with
2.16.840.1.113733.1.7.48.1 - I think depending on the check
implementation it could happen to appear green...



> Vladimir Belov: If you say that "the SSL Web Server 
> certificate would have the same properties, extensions, etc, that 
> our Extended Validation certificates "
> Clifford: Unfortunately that is information that we cannot disclose.
> Vladimir Belov: Why? :)
> Vladimir Belov: Is this so secret?
> Clifford: That is correct.

I consider this unacceptable. This is not just "Security through
obscurity" [3], because the "Certification Practice Statement" in my
opinion MUST NOT be secret. Interestingly, I had to use the Thawte
web search function to locate the document, I think it better should
be easy to find. Trust is all about believing that CPS are strictly
followed -- and that they are sufficient for customers need.
So they must be available I think.
I'm afraid this shows how uninterested users are in trust...



Regards,
Steffen

[1]
https://www.thawte.com/assets/documents/repository/cps/Thawte_CPS_3_3.pd
f
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Validation_Certificate
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity
 
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