Sorry for top-post - webmail :(

In TLS, the server should not send the root certificate - it sends the chain up 
to, but not including, the root certificate.

>From (sorry) http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc783349(v=ws.10).aspx

Server Certificate Message
The server sends its certificate to the client. The server certificate contains 
the server’s public key. The client uses this key to authenticate the server 
and to encrypt the Premaster Secret. The Server Certificate message includes:
The server’s certificate list. The first certificate in the list is the 
server’s X.509v3 certificate that contains the server’s public key.

Other validating certificates. All other validating certificates, up to but not 
including the root certificate from the CA, signed by the CA.


Carl


From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] on 
behalf of Cristian Thiago Moecke [cont...@cristiantm.com.br]

Sent: 18 June 2013 11:43

To: openssl-users@openssl.org

Subject: Re: Is it possible to grab CA certificate?









If the only certificate that is shown is the server certificate, the server is 
not providing the certificate chain, only the server certificate. This way, you 
wont be able to get the CA certificate from the SSL connection. Maybe your 
network
 admins want to fix that too. 





What is strange is that exceptions are not working as expected. Is there any 
chance that the certificate is changing from time to time?





I really think you will need to discuss what is happening with the server 
admins. 

















On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:07 AM, A A <wemp...@gmail.com> wrote:


When I go to SSL site I see this message in fx:



"You have asked Firefox to connect securely to 
news.ycombinator.com,

but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.



Normally, when you try to connect securely,

sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are

going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could

mean that someone is

trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.



news.ycombinator.com uses an invalid security certificate.



The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.



(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)"



And then I go to Add exception -> View -> Details tab ->  Certificate

hierarchy but there is only 
news.ycombinator.com present. When I

export it and try to import it into fx I get:



"This is not a certificate authority certificate, so it can't be

imported into the certificate authority list."



So I think this is not CA certificate but a server certificate.



And about recurring errors on the same site: I have a number of server

exceptions in "Servers" list under my company custom CA certificate in

Advanced -> View Certificates -> Servers. All of them are marked

"Permanent". Nevertheless, the error page I described above appears

from time to time even on sites that I have previously added to a

trusted list. It's extremely annoying and I don't know why this

happens. I use Firefox 21.




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