There's nothing wrong with being inclusive. Buildbot was not harmed by removing the word 'slave' from its codebase. - Dan
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:33 PM Donald R Laster Jr <don_...@dlaster.com> wrote: > Dan, > > The words "slave" and "master" have no negative or positive > connotations in relation to software or even hardware. They are simply > description of the purpose/function of the software or hardware. > > As I said this is nothing but classic political correctness. People > need to stop being offended at things which are not offensive. This is no > different than someone getting offended at the use of the words "servant" > and "master", or "boss" and "employee", or "parent" and "child". Changing > the software and documentation simply because someone does not like the use > of appropriate terms is a waste of time. And likely to create problems in > the future due to changes that serve no purpose. > > Don > > Dan Kegel wrote on 07/04/2020 02:09 PM: > > It might be worth reminding folks of > > https://www.openssl.org/community/conduct.html > > which says > > "We strive to be an open and inclusive community where anyone can > contribute." > > - Dan > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM Donald R Laster Jr <don_...@dlaster.com > <mailto:don_...@dlaster.com>> wrote: > > > > > > Having just noticed the last 4 or 5 emails related to this thread I > have to say this is classic political correctness garbage. > > Don > > > > Dan Kegel wrote on 07/04/2020 11:35 AM: > > > Likewise. Thank you, Rich! > > > > > > When this issue came up in Buildbot 5 years ago, there was a fair > bit of... discussion, see > > > http://trac.buildbot.net/ticket/2340 > > > The resolution back then was to rename 'slave' to 'worker', which > was a LOT of > > > work, and seemed to satisfy everybody at the time. > > > It came up again recently, see > > > https://github.com/buildbot/buildbot/issues/5382 > > > and they're now looking at whether and how to address the word > 'master'. > > > > > > Not having noticed this discussion in openssl until today, here's > my two cents as an openssl user: > > > I think an incremental approach is fine, clean up the most > offensive word or two > > > first, and then see where things land. And if it can't start > immediately, that's > > > ok, it took buildbot a while to come up with the needed consensus > and > > > elbow grease. > > > - Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:10 PM Eliot Lear < > l...@ofcourseimright.com <mailto:l...@ofcourseimright.com> <mailto: > l...@ofcourseimright.com <mailto:l...@ofcourseimright.com>>> wrote: > > > > > > Can we please put the knives a way? Rich has given a lot to > this > > > community. As an openssl user, I'd rather the conversation > moved along. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > >