Zane,

Thanks for putting the requirements list together. That's very helpful. There 
is a task-flow meeting today where we can discuss this. I added it to the 
agenda. Please attend if possible:

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StateManagement

Thanks,

Adrian

On Jun 20, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Zane Bitter <zbit...@redhat.com>
 wrote:

> After the Heat meeting yesterday I had a discussion with Keith Bray and 
> Jessica Lucci about what sort of features Heat needs from TaskFlow in order 
> to be able to adopt it as a workflow system. In the course of that discussion 
> I volunteered to put together a list of requirements, and here is my first 
> cut at that:
> 
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/TaskSystemRequirements
> 
> The key point for me is that workflow is core to what an orchestration system 
> does, and therefore it is essential that we can continue to test integration 
> with it *directly*.
> 
> That (combined with a reluctance to take on big external dependencies) makes 
> me sceptical of Celery or similar solutions, but hopefully this information 
> should be a good starting point for Celery experts like Jessica to figure out 
> why I'm wrong ;)
> 
> 
> Incidentally, the coroutine-based task library that we're currently using in 
> Heat is becoming a bit more mature - I've been using it to orchestrate stack 
> updates, which is the most complicated workflow we have. The major remaining 
> pain point is missing the rollback features mentioned on the wiki page. If 
> this proves to be something that is useful across projects, I would be happy 
> to contribute it to Oslo. If anybody is interested in checking it out, the 
> code is here:
> 
> https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/scheduler.py
> 
> cheers,
> Zane.
> 
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