Sorry to pile on, but:

"this was not particularly the case for what our driver is concerned. As I 
already wrote, almost all the reviews so far have been related to unit 
tests or minor formal corrections."

As was pointed out by me in patch set 1 here: 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43592/ 

There was no unit test coverage for an entire module 
(nova.virt.hyperv.volumeops) before that patch.

So while I agree that driver maintainers know their code the best and how 
it all works with the dirty details, but they are also going to be the 
ones to cut corners to get things fixed which usually shows up in a lack 
of test coverage - and that's a good reason to have external reviewers on 
everything, to keep us all honest.



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From:   Alessandro Pilotti <apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com>
To:     OpenStack Development Mailing List 
<openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>, 
Date:   10/15/2013 10:39 AM
Subject:        Re: [openstack-dev] [Hyper-V] Havana status




On Oct 15, 2013, at 18:14 , Duncan Thomas <duncan.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11 October 2013 15:41, Alessandro Pilotti
<apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com> wrote:
Current reviews require:

+1 "de facto" driver X mantainer(s)
+2  core reviewer
+2A  core reviewer

While with the proposed scenario we'd get to a way faster route:

+2  driver X mantainer
+2A another driver X mantainer or a core reviewer

This would make a big difference in terms of review time.

Unfortunately I suspect it would also lead to a big difference in
review quality, and not in a positive way. The things that are
important / obvious to somebody who focuses on one driver are totally
different, and often far more limited, than the concerns of somebody
who reviews many drivers and core code changes.

Although the eyes of somebody which comes from a different domain bring 
usually additional points of views and befits, this was not particularly 
the case for what our driver is concerned. As I already wrote, almost all 
the reviews so far have been related to unit tests or minor formal 
corrections. 

I disagree on the "far more limited": driver devs (at least in our case), 
have to work on a wider range of projects beside Nova (e.g.: Neutron, 
Cinder, Ceilometer and outside proper OpenStack OpenVSwitch and Crowbar, 
to name the most relevant cases). 





-- 
Duncan Thomas

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