I suspect that the majority of the Federation cases will fall along these lines, and that this rule will be too restrictive.

A SAML assertion will be short lived. A Virtual machine agreement will be longer (for the most part) and most IdPs will not be sending out revocation events. I'd argue that most people are ok with this in general, but will want to have some sort of "I pay for the account, I can cut off the account" agreement from a specific user or set of users.


On 11/08/2013 07:18 AM, David Chadwick wrote:
Hi Guys

we discussed what to do in federation when the assertions have a particular time duration, but the user wishes to delegate permissions or start a job for longer than this duration. What should we do?

Firstly we should not do this in general as it is an escalation of privileges.

However, if the IDP says, when the federation is set up (as part of the federation agreement), that it will send user revocation notifications to those SPs to whom it has issued user assertions within a specified time frame (this time would be federation specific, but could be set to say 7 days for assertions of duration 24 hours) then the SPs now have a maximum time that they can escalate a user's assertion up to, if the user starts a job or delegates privileges etc. from an assertion of shorter duration.

regards

David




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