Alex Schultz wrote:
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Ed Leafe<[email protected]> wrote:
On Feb 16, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Doug Hellmann<[email protected]> wrote:
When we signed off on the Big Tent changes we said competition
between projects was desirable, and that deployers and contributors
would make choices based on the work being done in those competing
projects. Basically, the market would decide on the "optimal"
solution. It's a hard message to hear, but that seems to be what
is happening.
This.
We got much better at adding new things to OpenStack. We need to get better at
letting go of old things.
-- Ed Leafe
I agree that the market will dictate what continues to survive, but if
you're not careful you may be speeding up the decline as the end user
(deployer/operator/cloud consumer) will switch completely to something
else because it becomes to difficult to continue to consume via what
used to be there and no longer is. I thought the whole point was to
not have vendor lock-in. Honestly I think the focus is too much on
the development and not enough on the consumption of the development
output. What are the point of all these features if no one can
actually consume them.
+1 to that.
I've been in the boat of development and consumption of it for my
*whole* journey in openstack land and I can say the product as a whole
seems 'underbaked' with regards to the way people consume the
development output. It seems we have focused on how to do the dev. stuff
nicely and a nice process there, but sort of forgotten about all that
being quite useless if no one can consume them (without going through
much pain or paying a vendor).
This has or has IMHO been a factor in why certain are companies (and the
people they support) are exiting openstack and just going elsewhere.
I personally don't believe fixing this is 'let the market forces' figure
it out for us (what a slow & horrible way to let this play out; I'd
almost rather go pull my fingernails out). I do believe it will require
making opinionated decisions which we have all never been very good at.
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