@Jeremy if you have not tried thelatest webex, then sharing your Havana time
frame webex experience is not very useful. I think you would agree if Havana
release had some issues it would not automatically mean that newton has them :-)
Serguei
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From: Britt Houser (bhouser)
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] PTG Day #1 Webex remote participation
I’ve attended two Kolla midcycles remotely everything Steve said here is true.
But, as long as your expectations are set accordingly, suboptimal is better
than nothing at all. =)
Thx,
britt
On 2/19/17, 1:09 AM, "Steven Dake (stdake)" <std...@cisco.com> wrote:
Jeremy,
Completely makes sense. I believe the prior experience the foundation has
had with remote participation probably won’t be much improved at the Pike PTG
as there is no dedicated production staff and I’m not sure what type of
teleconference hardware Michal is bringing to the PTG. Not to mention the fact
that the wireless services may be in a DOS state because of the number of
attendees.
Michal asked the foundation if remote participation was an option, and they
stated it was. Michal had then suggested to use zoom.us and promised remote
participation, however, that didn’t get done until Friday. Cisco isn’t
donating the webex services in this case; I am as a community member and Kolla
core.
I have also found during Kolla midcycle events we have held since the
founding of Kolla and prior to the PTG (which is the new midcycle) that every
midcycle event with remote participation is not very optimal for participants
for the litany of reasons you mention.
Clearly in-person PTG participation is superior to the hacked-together
telepresence we may have available at the PTG. I do think whatever
teleconference hardware Michal brings to summit is better than looking at the
output of an Etherpad where all kinds of context is lost.
For folks attending from their office remotely, don’t expect a great
experience. Face to face participation is always better as Jeremy has stated.
Regards
-steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Stanley <fu...@yuggoth.org>
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Date: Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 5:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] PTG Day #1 Webex remote participation
On 2017-02-18 15:46:19 +0000 (+0000), Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:
[...]
> In the past the foundation has been wary of enabling remote
> participation.
[...]
Only wary because of prior experience: Cisco donated Webex service
and dedicated remote production staff for us throughout the Havana
design summit in Portland, OR. As one of the volunteers who agreed
to monitor the local systems, I can say that it was a suboptimal
solution at best. Supplied laptops acting as the "presenter"
consoles crashed/hung repeatedly, slight instabilities in conference
networking were a major impediment to streaming, omnidirectional
microphones placed throughout the conference rooms still failed to
pick up much of the conversation, and for those who did attempt to
participate remotely we heard numerous complaints about how they
couldn't follow heated discussions with dozens of participants in a
room together.
--
Jeremy Stanley
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