On 2/26/2017 6:52 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
During some productive discussions in the Stewardship Working Group PTG
room, the subject of the mailing list came up. The usual questions
around whether or not we should have per-project lists came up and the
reasons we don't were re-affirmed. To recap those reasons:

  * Cross posting is the pits
  * People don't always know at the beginning of a thread that a
    discussion will need to go wider, leading to silos and confusion.

So we turned to ways to help reduce peoples' load while reading e-mail,
since many (most?) tend to opt out of reading openstack-dev.

There are a number of ways that we can help, including teaching people
to have more efficient workflows and use specific mail reading tools
(don't worry, we're not adding an NNTP gateway.. yet). But one that
received positive feedback from the room was to have moderated
business-only mailing lists for each project.

Basically, there are things that we _do_ know will not go wider when
the thread begins. Just running through the threads on the February
thread index, there are a few obvious classes:

  * Mascots
  * Social meetups
  * Meeting logistics
  * Core team membership

There are likely others. The idea is that these messages would go into a
${project}-busin...@lists.openstack.org. Said list would be moderated by
a team of the PTL's choosing, and we would admonish moderators to reject
soundly any threads not obviously single project business related.

Thoughts? If this sounds good, I'll go ahead and write up a spec.
(openstack-specs?)

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So business as in like parliamentary procedure business and not business as in synergizing growth for the bottom line in a global economy?

I care about more than just the nova project, so I also pay attention to non-nova specific stuff in other projects, mostly neutron, cinder, ironic, glance, keystone and QA. If I want to know about their business (can we say businazz to jazz it up?) I not only need to be in the openstack-dev list but also their project-specific list? It's all going to filter to the same folders I already have, but then I have to be in several more mailing lists.

Who is the actual audience for this change? Is it to get the mundane every day project stuff out of the openstack-dev list so people don't have to read it and if so, who are those people and why can't they just filter or ignore threads they don't care about properly?

I'm a -1 on this unless I'm missing how it makes things much much better somehow.

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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann

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