On 10/03/17 11:59, Clint Byrum wrote:
 What a community like ours is good at doing is gathering all the
exciting industry leading bleeding edge chaos into a boring commodity
platform. What Zane is saying (and I agree with) is let's make sure we see
the whole cloud forest and not just focus on the VM trees in front of us.

I'm curious what you (Josh) or Zane would change too.

Here's something simple that I've been pushing for 2 years and we still haven't done yet:

http://www.zerobanana.com/archive/2015/04/24#a-vision-for-openstack

There's plenty more to say, but perhaps this is not the place. If Josh starts a new thread I'll be happy to contribute.

Containers/apps/kubes/etc. have to run on computers with storage and
networks. OpenStack provides a pretty rich set of features for giving
users computers with storage on networks, and operators a way to manage
those. So I fail to see how that is svn to "cloud native"'s git. It
seems more foundational and complimentary.

I should have clarified the svn remark. It was a discussion about marketing, not technology.

svn is solid, stable, ubiquitous in a certain class of old-school Enterprise shops, and completely irrelevant to the future of software development. That's the future we're in danger of sleepwalking into.

cheers,
Zane.

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