On 06/29/2017 09:23 AM, Monty Taylor wrote:

We are already WELL past where we can solve the problem you are describing.
Pandora's box has been opened - we have defined ourselves as an Open community.
Our only requirement to be official is that you behave as one of us. There is
nothing stopping those machine learning projects from becoming official. If they
did become official but were still bad software - what would we have solved?

We have a long-time official project that currently has staffing problems. If
someone Googles for OpenStack DBaaS and finds Trove and then looks to see that
the contribution rate has fallen off recently they could get the impression that
OpenStack is a bunch of dead crap.

Inclusion as an Official Project in OpenStack is not an indication that anyone
thinks the project is good quality. That's a decision we actively made. This is
the result.

I wonder if it would be useful to have a separate orthogonal status as to "level of stability/usefulness/maturity/quality" to help newcomers weed out projects that are under TC governance but are not ready for prime time.

Chris

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