I think if you try to go down the Kubernetes & !Kubernetes path, you'll end up re-implementing pretty much all of Kubernetes, or you will use Kubernetes just like !Kubernetes and gain very little benefit from it.
Thanks, Kevin ________________________________________ From: Flavio Percoco [fla...@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:12 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Let's use Ansible to deploy OpenStack services on Kubernetes On 17/07/17 09:47 -0400, James Slagle wrote: >On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Flavio Percoco <fla...@redhat.com> wrote: >> Thanks for all the feedback so far. This is one of the things I appreciate >> the >> most about this community, Open conversations, honest feedback and will to >> collaborate. >> >> I'm top-posting to announce that we'll have a joint meeting with the Kolla >> team >> on Wednesday at 16:00 UTC. I know it's not an ideal time for many (it's not >> for >> me) but I do want to have a live discussion with the rest of the Kolla team. >> >> Some questions about the meeting: >> >> * How much time can we allocate? >> * Can we prepare an agenda rather than just discussing "TripleO is thinking >> of >> using Ansible and not kolla-kubernetes"? (I'm happy to come up with such >> agenda) > >It may help to prepare some high level requirements around what we >need out of a solution. For the ansible discussion I started this >etherpad: > >https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ptg-queens-ansible > >How we use Ansible and what we want to use it for, is related to this >discussion around Helm. Although, it's not the exact same discussion, >so if you wanted to start a new etherpad more specific to >tripleo/kubernetes that may be good as well. > >One thing I think is important in this discussion is that we should be >thinking about deploying containers on both Kubernetes and >!Kubernetes. That is one of the reasons I like the ansible approach, >in that I think it could address both cases with a common interface >and API. I don't think we should necessarily choose a solution that >requires to deploy on Kubernetes. Because then we are stuck with that >choice. It'd be really nice to just "docker run" sometimes for >dev/test. I don't know if Helm has that abstraction or not, I'm just >trying to capture the requirement. Yes! Thanks for pointing this out as this is one of the reasons why I was proposing ansible as our common interface w/o any extra layer. I'll probably start a new etherpad for this as I would prefer not to distract the rest of the TripleO + ansible discussion. At the end, if ansible ends up being the tool we pick, I'll make sure to update your etherpad. Flavio >If you consider the parallel with Heat in this regard, we are >currently "stuck" deploying on OpenStack (undercloud with Heat). We've >had to work an a lot of complimentary features to add the flexibility >to TripleO that are a result of having to use OpenStack (OVB, >split-stack). > >That's exactly why we are starting a discussion around using Ansible, >and is one of the fundamental changes that operators have been >requesting in TripleO. > >-- >-- James Slagle >-- > >__________________________________________________________________________ >OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev