Quick reply with my thoughts in-line.

Sam

On 21/08/2017, 10:13, "Dmitry Tantsur" <dtant...@redhat.com> wrote:

    (adding the release and stable team just for their information)
    
    Thanks Julia and everyone for handling this situation while I was out. More 
    comments inline.
    
    On 08/17/2017 07:13 PM, Julia Kreger wrote:
    > Greetings everyone!
    > 
    > As some of you may have noticed, we released ironic 9.0.0 today. But
    > wait! There is more!
    > 
    > We triggered this release due to a number of issues, one of which was
    > that we learned that we needed the stable/pike branch for our grenade
    > jobs to execute properly. This was not done previously because
    > Ironic’s release model is incompatible with making release candidate
    > releases.
    
    Yep :( So, I think the lesson to learn is to create our stable/XXX branch 
at the 
    same time as the other projects. We kind of knew that already, but did not 
    anticipate such a huge breakage so quickly. I suggest we don't try it in 
Queens :)
    
    Now, with that in place we still have two options:
    1. A conservative one - make the branching the hard feature freeze, similar 
to 
    other projects. We may start with a soft freeze at around M3, and just move 
into 
    Queens when stable/queens is created. As that point, what is out - is out.
    2. Alternative - continue making selected feature backports until the final 
    freeze roughly one week before the final release. This kind of contradicts 
    calling a branch "stable" though.
    
    I don't have a strong opinion, but I'm slightly more in favor of the 
    conservation option #1 to avoid confusing people and complicating the 
process.
    
    Thoughts?

Personally, I think option 2 still makes sense, and it aligns us closely with 
the process in the other projects, the difference between us and them is that 
their branch is cut using a release candidate instead of a real release. The 
act of backporting things into the stable branch and then re-releasing is the 
same though.

Another alternative I wonder if we should consider is cutting our branch 
earlier in the cycle, when we make our first intermediary release, and then 
finding out if we can sync the branches at each release time instead of 
backporting everything. E.g. git checkout stable/X, git reset –hard 
origin/master or git rebase master, git push. Doing this will allow us to 
retain the git history and same commit ids from master to stable/X until master 
stops developing stable/X and moves on to stable/X+1. I think another advantage 
of this is it also allows people to find and use our latest intermediary 
releases easier. But I don’t know how nicely this would work with all the 
tooling etc the release team has in place.
    
    > 
    > Once we’ve confirmed that our grenade testing is passing, we will back
    > port patches we had previously approved, but that had not landed, from
    > master to stable/pike.
    
    ++ I've approved a few patches already, and will continue approving them 
today.
    
    > 
    > As a result, please anticipate Ironic’s official Pike release for this
    > cycle to be 9.1.0, if the stars, gates, and job timeouts align with
    > us.
    
    Right, I think we will request it on Wednesday, to allow a bit more time to 
test 
    our newly populated not-so-stable stable/pike :)
    
    > 
    > If there are any questions, please feel free to stop by
    > #openstack-ironic. We have also been keeping our general purpose
    > whiteboard[1] up to date, you can see our notes regarding our current
    > plan starting at line 120, and notes regarding gate failures and
    > issues starting at line 37.
    > Thanks!
    > 
    > -Julia
    > 
    > [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard
    > 
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