#2 would be preferable as well just because we have so many guides/distros
mentioning the different file locations. I'm not familiar with mod_wsgi
enough to know if it's possible.

Another 3rd option may be to edit the oslo config constructor call when
using that entry point to add some well-known paths for additional config
files rather than only parsing 'sys.argv[1]'. For example, we could always
try to add /etc/neutron/plugin.ini to the list which we can document that
distros/deployment tools should always create or have a symbolic link to a
plugin-specific config (e.g. ml2_conf.ini).


On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Mohammed Naser <mna...@vexxhost.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Kevin Benton <ke...@benton.pub> wrote:
> > Yes, unfortunately I didn't make it back to the patch in time to adjust
> > devstack to dump all of the configuration into one file (instead of
> > /etc/neutron/neutron.conf /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2.conf etc). I did test
> > locally with my dev environment around the time that RPC server patch
> went
> > in, but there may have been a regression since it went in since it's not
> > tested as Matt pointed out.
> >
>
> I've added Puppet into this because I think we would have to take a
> decision regarding this.  The reason behind the fact that we've always
> used the two configuration files is because distributions which ship
> packages actually provide 2 configuration files.
>
> We use a configuration resource called `neutron_plugin_ml2` which
> configures things always in `/etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini`.
>
> In the case of Ubuntu/Debian based systems, we update
> `/etc/default/neutron-server` to point the plugin configuration to
> `/etc/neutron/plugin.ini` and then we ensure that the file is a
> symbolic link to `/etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini`.
>
> Now, we have two options in my mind (and I am open for others):
>
> 1) Configure plugins entirely inside `neutron.conf`
> This option would solve our issue but introduce another one.  I
> believe that the order in the start commands would mean that the later
> configuration files (in this case, the plugin.ini) would have priority
> over the `neutron.conf` causing an inconsistency, I don't think this
> is possible.  However, we can work around this by ensuring that the
> plugin.ini file is empty.  However, we will be introducing service
> restarts for no reason with that change which can be very confusing
> for the user as to why configuration is moving.
>
> 2) Figure out a way to pass 'args' via WSGI?
> I'm not sure if this is entirely possible at all.  But, could there be
> a way that we can pass a list of configuration files in the mod_wsgi
> configuration?  This would make it the most transparent fix without
> having to adjust all of the configuration files and bend against the
> set configuration paths of the distro.
>
> I'd be more than happy to hear any other ideas regarding this
> solution.  I would love to implement #2 if it is somehow possible
> (environment variables, maybe?) but #1 would work but be very messy
> for operators and users.
>
> >
> > It appears that puppet is still spreading the config files for the server
> > into multiple locations as well[1]. Does it inherit that logic from
> > devstack? Because that will need to be changed to push all of the
> relevant
> > server config into one conf.
> >
> > 1.
> > http://logs.openstack.org/82/500182/3/check/gate-puppet-
> openstack-integration-4-scenario004-tempest-ubuntu-
> xenial/791523c/logs/etc/neutron/plugins/
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Mohammed Naser <mna...@vexxhost.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Mohammed Naser <mna...@vexxhost.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Matthew Treinish <
> mtrein...@kortar.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, Sep 03, 2017 at 01:47:24PM -0400, Mohammed Naser wrote:
> >> >>> Hi folks,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I've attempted to enable mod_wsgi support in our dev environment
> with
> >> >>> Puppet however it results in a traceback.  I figured it was an
> >> >>> environment thing so I looked into moving the Puppet CI to test
> using
> >> >>> mod_wsgi and it resulted in the same error.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://logs.openstack.org/82/500182/3/check/gate-puppet-
> openstack-integration-4-scenario004-tempest-ubuntu-
> xenial/791523c/logs/apache/neutron_wsgi_error.txt.gz
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Would anyone from the Neutron team be able to give input on this?
> >> >>> We'd love to add gating for Neutron deployed by mod_wsgi which can
> >> >>> help find similar issues.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Neutron never got their wsgi support working in Devstack either. The
> >> >> patch
> >> >> adding that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439191/ never passed
> the
> >> >> gate and
> >> >> seems to have lost the attention of the author. The wsgi support in
> >> >> neutron
> >> >> probably doesn't work yet, and is definitely untested. IIRC, the
> issue
> >> >> they were
> >> >> hitting was loading the config files. [1] I don't think I saw any
> >> >> progress on it
> >> >> after that though.
> >> >>
> >> >> The TC goal doc [2] probably should say something about it never
> >> >> landing and
> >> >> missing pike.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > That would make sense.  The release notes also state that it does
> >> > offer the ability to run inside mod_wsgi which can be misleading to
> >> > deployers (that was the main reason I thought we can start testing
> >> > using it):
> >> >
> >> Sigh, hit send too early.  Here is the link:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/commit/?id=
> 916bc96ee214078496b4b38e1c93f36f906ce840
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> -Matt Treinish
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> [1]
> >> >> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-
> June/117830.html
> >> >> [2]
> >> >> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-
> in-wsgi.html#neutron
> >> >>
> >> >>
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