Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 12/13/2017 10:17 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> [...] >> Why one year ? >> >> Why not switch to 9 months ? Beyond making the math a lot easier, this >> has mostly to do with events organization. The Summits are already >> locked for 2018/2019 with a pattern of happening in April/May and >> October/November. As we want to keep the PTG event as a separate >> work-focused productive event at the start of every cycle, and not have >> it collide with one of those already-planned summits, going for a yearly >> rhythm is the best solution. > > If we're being honest, how much of this proposal is driven by the > Foundation's need to cut back on paying for organized events and people > in community leadership positions needing to travel less, especially > when their travel plans have increased with the needs to attend a bunch > of other non-OpenStack community events?
It's mostly fueled by in-person discussions I had with developers over the past months. As we try to make OpenStack development more palatable to part-time contributors, I think our rhythm is a bit insane, and an obstacle to getting more people involved with OpenStack. A lot of people have been mentioning the difficulty to participate to summits now, and I think keeping devs out of summits is not a good solution either. Funding, organizing and finding sponsors for ETOOMANYEVENTS is of course difficult, so relaxing the pressure there is of course beneficial there too, but I would not say it's a main objective of the proposal. >> When ? >> >> If we switch, we could either pick February/March or August/September as >> the start of cycle / yearly PTG time. From an events organization >> perspective, it is a lot easier to organize a week-long event in >> February/March. August is a no-go for a lot of the world. Early >> September is a mess with various US and religious holidays. Late >> September is just too close to the October/November summit. >> >> So the year-long cycles would ideally start at the beginning of the >> year, when we would organize the yearly PTG. That said, I'm not sure we >> can really afford to keep the current rhythm for one more year before >> switching. That is why I'd like us to consider taking the plunge and >> just doing it for *Rocky*, and have a single PTG in 2018 (in Dublin). > > We can't afford it, literally? Or somehow figuratively, like the current > imposed pace of development is killing us? The latter :) -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev