On 12/13/2017 11:29 AM, Sean McGinnis wrote:
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 05:16:35PM +0000, Chris Jones wrote:
Hey
On 13 December 2017 at 17:12, Jimmy McArthur <ji...@openstack.org> wrote:
Thierry Carrez wrote:
- It doesn't mean that teams can only meet in-person once a year.
Summits would still provide a venue for team members to have an
in-person meeting. I also expect a revival of the team-organized
midcycles to replace the second PTG for teams that need or want to meet
more often.
The PTG seems to allow greater coordination between groups. I worry that
going back to an optional mid-cycle would reduce this cross-collaboration,
while also reducing project face-to-face time.
I can't speak for the Foundation, but I would think it would be good to
have an official PTG in the middle of the cycle (perhaps neatly aligned
with some kind of milestone/event) that lets people discuss plans for
finishing off the release, and early work they want to get started on for
the subsequent release). The problem with team-organised midcycles (as I'm
sure everyone remembers), is that there's little/no opportunity for
cross-project work.
--
Cheers,
Chris
This was one of my concerns initially too. We may have to see how things go and
course correct once we have a little more data to go on. But the thought (or at
least the hope) was that we could get by with using the one PTG early in the
cycle to get alignment, then though IRC, the mailing list, and the Forums (keep
in mind there will be two Forums within the cycle) we would be able to keep
things going and discuss any cross project concerns.
This may actually get more emphasis on developers attending the Forum. I think
that is one part of our PTG/Design Summit split that has not fully settled the
way we had hoped. The Forum is still encouraged for developers to attend. But I
think the reality has been many companies now just see the Summit as a
marketing event and see no reason to send any developers.
I can say from the last couple Forum experiences, a lot of really good
discussions have happened there. It's really been unfortunate that there were a
lot of key people missing from some of those discussions though. Personally, my
hope with making this change would mean that the likelihood of devs being able
to justify going to the Forum increases.
Sean
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Sean,
I agree here. I think a lot of important things happen at the Summits
and it would be good if this helped encourage developers to get there
for Forum discussion. From a project perspective I think it then
becomes more important for topics to be collected and defined so that
developers have something concrete to point to as a need for travel. In
other words, we would need to somewhat change our thinking about the
Summits and better utilize the Forums.
Jay
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