On Tue, 23 Jan 2018, gordon chung wrote:
i love this intro. when does your coming-of-age book come out? :)
What, you don't have it already? It's _so_ amazing.
i think this probably links back to the issues with openstack-specs. maybe it's because the tasks aren't flashy enough, maybe it's because people have too much work. personally, i've never had a user/anyone tell me that "goal X would be useful in your project" and considering how silo'd the projects are, looking outside my project of focus is not very high on priority.
Yes, that too.
## PTL Balance In [this morning's office hours](http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-01-18.log.html#t2018-01-18T15:43:53)this link is wrong! you made me read stuff i didn't want to read! :P i'm going to guess it roughly starts here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-01-23.log.html#t2018-01-23T09:48:03
Bah, the one time I'm not super careful about checking links. Yeah, the one you found is the right one.
if i were to (potentially) oversimplify it, i would agree with this statement: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-01-23.log.html#t2018-01-23T10:12:22 i don't believe a PTL necessarily has to keep the whole state of the project in their head (although they could). ultimately, it's up to the PTL to decide how much they're willing to defer to others.
I think that is probably how things should be, but I'm not sure it is how things always are. I expect there's a bit of nova exceptionalism built into this analysis and also a bit of bleed between being the PTL and doing anything with significant traction in nova when not the PTL: the big picture is a big deal and you got gotta be around, a lot. But, as I've said many times, the report intentionally represents my own interpretations and biases, in hope that someone might respond and say a variety of things, including "WRONG!", driving forward our dialectic. So, thanks for responding. I owe you a cookie or something. -- Chris Dent (⊙_⊙') https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent
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