On Tue, 23 Jan 2018, gordon chung wrote:

i love this intro. when does your coming-of-age book come out? :)

What, you don't have it already? It's _so_ amazing.

i think this probably links back to the issues with openstack-specs.
maybe it's because the tasks aren't flashy enough, maybe it's because
people have too much work. personally, i've never had a user/anyone tell
me that "goal X would be useful in your project" and considering how
silo'd the projects are, looking outside my project of focus is not very
high on priority.

Yes, that too.

## PTL Balance

In [this morning's office
hours](http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-01-18.log.html#t2018-01-18T15:43:53)

this link is wrong! you made me read stuff i didn't want to read! :P i'm
going to guess it roughly starts here:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-01-23.log.html#t2018-01-23T09:48:03

Bah, the one time I'm not super careful about checking links. Yeah,
the one you found is the right one.

if i were to (potentially) oversimplify it, i would agree with this
statement:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-01-23.log.html#t2018-01-23T10:12:22

i don't believe a PTL necessarily has to keep the whole state of the
project in their head (although they could). ultimately, it's up to the
PTL to decide how much they're willing to defer to others.

I think that is probably how things should be, but I'm not sure it
is how things always are.

I expect there's a bit of nova exceptionalism built into this
analysis and also a bit of bleed between being the PTL and doing
anything with significant traction in nova when not the PTL: the
big picture is a big deal and you got gotta be around, a lot.

But, as I've said many times, the report intentionally represents
my own interpretations and biases, in hope that someone might
respond and say a variety of things, including "WRONG!", driving
forward our dialectic.

So, thanks for responding. I owe you a cookie or something.

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