On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Eric Fried <openst...@fried.cc> wrote:
Thanks for this, gibi.


TL;DR: a).

I didn't look, but I'm pretty sure we're not caching allocations in the report client. Today, nobody outside of nova (specifically the resource
tracker via the report client) is supposed to be mucking with instance
allocations, right? And given the global lock in the resource tracker,
it should be pretty difficult to race e.g. a resize and a delete in any
meaningful way. So short term, IMO it is reasonable to treat any
generation conflict as an error. No retries. Possible wrinkle on delete,
where it should be a failure unless forced.

Yes, today the instance_uuid and migraton_uuid consumers in placement are only changed from nova.

Right now I don't have any examples where nova is racing with itself on a instance or migration consumer. We could try hitting the Nova API in parallel with different server lifecycle operations against the same server to see if we can find races. But until such race is discovered we can go with option a)


Long term, I also can't come up with any scenario where it would be
appropriate to do a narrowly-focused GET+merge/replace+retry. But
implementing the above short-term plan shouldn't prevent us from adding retries for individual scenarios later if we do uncover places where it
makes sense.


Later when resources consumed by a server will be handled outside of nova, like bandwidth from neutron and accelerators from cyborg we might see cases when nova will not be the only module changing a instance_uuid consumer. Then we have to decide how to handle that. I think one solution could be to make sure Nova knows about the bandwidth and accelerator resource needs of a server even if it is provided by neutron or cyborg. This knowledge is anyhow necessary to support atomic resource claim in the scheduler. For neturon ports this will be done through the resource_request attribute of the port. So even if the resource need of a port changes nova can go back to neutron and query the current need. This way nova can implement the following generic algorithm for every operation where nova wants to change the instance_uuid consumer in placement: * collect the server current resource needs (might involve reading it from flavor, from neutron port, from cyborg accelerator) and apply the change nova wants to make (e.g. delete, move, resize).
* GET current consumer view from placement
* merge the two and push the result back to placement


Here's some stream-of-consciousness that led me to the above opinions:

- On spawn, we send the allocation with a consumer gen of None because
we expect the consumer not to exist. If it exists, that should be a hard
fail. (Hopefully the only way this happens is a true UUID conflict.)

- On migration, when we create the migration UUID, ditto above ^

I agree on both. I suggest returning HTTP 500 as we need a bug report about these cases.


- On migration, when we transfer the allocations in either direction, a
conflict means someone managed to resize (or otherwise change
allocations?) since the last time we pulled data. Given the global lock
in the report client, this should have been tough to do. If it does
happen, I would think any retry would need to be done all the way back
at the claim, which I imagine is higher up than we should go. So again,
I think we should fail the migration and make the user retry.

Do we want to fail the whole migration or just the migration step (e.g. confirm, revert)? The later means that failure during confirm or revert would put the instance back to VERIFY_RESIZE. While the former would mean that in case of conflict at confirm we try an automatic revert. But for a conflict at revert we can only put the instance to ERROR state.


- On destroy, a conflict again means someone managed a resize despite
the global lock. If I'm deleting an instance and something about it
changes, I would think I want the opportunity to reevaluate my decision
to delete it. That said, I would definitely want a way to force it (in
which case we can just use the DELETE call explicitly). But neither case
should be a retry, and certainly there is no destroy scenario where I
would want a "merging" of allocations to happen.

Good idea about allowing forcing the delete. So a simple DELETE /servers/{instance_uuid} could fail on consumer conflict but a POST /servers/{instance_uuid}/action with forceDelete body would use DELETE /allocations and therefore will ignore any consumer generation.

Cheers,
gibi


Thanks,
efried


On 08/16/2018 06:43 AM, Balázs Gibizer wrote:
 reformatted for readabiliy, sorry:

 Hi,

tl;dr: To properly use consumer generation (placement 1.28) in Nova we
 need to decide how to handle consumer generation conflict from Nova
 perspective:
 a) Nova reads the current consumer_generation before the allocation
   update operation and use that generation in the allocation update
   operation.  If the allocation is changed between the read and the
   update then nova fails the server lifecycle operation and let the
   end user retry it.
 b) Like a) but in case of conflict nova blindly retries the
   read-and-update operation pair couple of times and if only fails
   the life cycle operation if run out of retries.
 c) Nova stores its own view of the allocation. When a consumer's
   allocation needs to be modified then nova reads the current state
   of the consumer from placement. Then nova combines the two
   allocations to generate the new expected consumer state. In case
   of generation conflict nova retries the read-combine-update
   operation triplet.

 Which way we should go now?

 What should be or long term goal?


 Details:

There are plenty of affected lifecycle operations. See the patch series
 starting at [1].

 For example:

 The current patch[1] that handles the delete server case implements
 option b).  It simly reads the current consumer generation from
placement and uses that to send a PUT /allocatons/{instance_uuid} with
 "allocations": {} in its body.

Here implementing option c) would mean that during server delete nova
 needs:
 1) to compile its own view of the resource need of the server
   (currently based on the flavor but in the future based on the
   attached port's resource requests as well)
 2) then read the current allocation of the server from placement
3) then subtract the server resource needs from the current allocation
   and send the resulting allocation back in the update to placement

In the simple case this subtraction would result in an empty allocation sent to placement. Also in this simple case c) has the same effect as
 b) currently implementated in [1].

 However if somebody outside of nova modifies the allocation of this
consumer in a way that nova does not know about such changed resource
 need then b) and c) will result in different placement state after
 server delete.

 I only know of one example, the change of neutron port's resource
 request while the port is attached. (Note, it is out of scope in the
 first step of bandwidth implementation.) In this specific example
option c) can work if nova re-reads the port's resource request during delete when recalculates its own view of the server resource needs. But
 I don't know if every other resource (e.g.  accelerators) used by a
 server can be / will be handled this way.


 Other examples of affected lifecycle operations:

 During a server migration moving the source host allocation from the
 instance_uuid to a the migration_uuid fails with consumer generation
 conflict because of the instance_uuid consumer generation. [2]

 Confirming a migration fails as the deletion of the source host
 allocation fails due to the consumer generation conflict of the
 migration_uuid consumer that is being emptied.[3]

During scheduling of a new server putting allocation to instance_uuid fails as the scheduler assumes that it is a new consumer and therefore
 uses consumer_generation: None for the allocation, but placement
 reports generation conflict. [4]

 During a non-forced evacuation the scheduler tries to claim the
 resource on the destination host with the instance_uuid, but that
 consumer already holds the source allocation therefore the scheduler
 cannot assume that the instance_uuid is a new consumer. [4]


 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591597
 [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591810
 [3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591811
 [4] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583667






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