> -----Original Message----- > From: Honza Pokorny [mailto:ho...@redhat.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:28 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Subject: [E] [openstack-dev] [tripleo] quickstart for humans > > Hello! > > Over the last few months, it seems that tripleo-quickstart has evolved into a > CI tool. It's primarily used by computers, and not humans. > tripleo-quickstart is a helpful set of ansible playbooks, and a collection of > feature sets. However, it's become less useful for setting up development > environments by humans. For example, devmode.sh was recently > deprecated without a user-friendly replacement. Moreover, during some > informal irc conversations in #oooq, some developers even mentioned the > plan to merge tripleo-quickstart and tripleo-ci. > > I think it would be beneficial to create a set of defaults for > tripleo-quickstart > that can be used to spin up new environments; a set of defaults for humans. > This can either be a well-maintained script in tripleo-quickstart itself, or a > brand new project, e.g. > tripleo-quickstart-humans. The number of settings, knobs, and flags should > be kept to a minimum. > > This would accomplish two goals: > > 1. It would bring uniformity to the team. Each environment is > installed the same way. When something goes wrong, we can > eliminate differences in setup when debugging. This should save a > lot of time. > > 2. Quicker and more reliable environment setup. If the set of defaults > is used by many people, it should container fewer bugs because more > people using something should translate into more bug reports, and > more bug fixes. > > These thoughts are coming from the context of tripleo-ui development. I > need an environment in order to develop, but I don't necessarily always care > about how it's installed. I want something that works for most scenarios. > > What do you think? Does this make sense? Does something like this already > exist? > > Thanks for listening! > > Honza
What is the recommended way to bring up a small POC of TripleO outside of CI? Documentation suggests using quickstart https://docs.openstack.org/tripleo-docs/latest/install/introduction/architecture.html "For development or proof of concept (PoC) environments, Quickstart can also be used." Quickstart.sh outside of CI has been broken for a while. It requires zuul cloner to work. https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1754498 __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
