On 25/10/18 1:38 PM, William M Edmonds wrote:
Zane Bitter <zbit...@redhat.com> wrote on 10/22/2018 03:12:46 PM:
 > On 22/10/18 10:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 > > On 10/19/18 5:17 PM, Zane Bitter wrote:

<snip>

 > >> Integration Tests
 > >> -----------------
 > >>
 > >> Integration tests do test, amongst other things, integration with
 > >> non-openstack-supplied things in the distro, so it's important that we
 > >> test on the actual distros we have identified as popular.[2] It's also
> >> important that every project be testing on the same distro at the end of
 > >> a release, so we can be sure they all work together for users.
 > >
> > I find very disturbing to see the project only leaning toward these only
 > > 2 distributions. Why not SuSE & Debian?
 >
 > The bottom line is it's because targeting those two catches 88% of our
 > users. (For once I did not make this statistic up.)
 >
 > Also note that in practice I believe almost everything is actually
 > tested on Ubuntu LTS, and only TripleO is testing on CentOS. It's
 > difficult to imagine how to slot another distro into the mix without
 > doubling up on jobs.

I think you meant 78%, assuming you were looking at the latest User Survey results [1], page 55. Still a hefty number.

I never know how to read those weird 3-way bar charts they have in the user survey, but that actually adds up to 91% by the looks of it (I believe you forgot to count RHEL). The numbers were actually slightly lower in the full-year data for 2017 that I used (from https://www.openstack.org/analytics - I can't give you a direct link because Javascript <sigh>).

It is important to note that the User Survey lumps all versions of a given OS together, whereas the TC reference [2] only considers the latest LTS/stable version. If the User Survey split out latests LTS/stable versions vs. others (e.g. Ubuntu 16.04 LTS), I expect we'd see Ubuntu 18.04 LTS + Centos 7 adding up to much less than 78%.

This is true, although we don't know by how much. (FWIW I can almost guarantee that virtually all of the CentOS/RHEL users are on 7, but I'm sure the same is not the case for Ubuntu 16.04.)

[1] https://www.openstack.org/assets/survey/April2017SurveyReport.pdf
[2] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/project-testing-interface.html#linux-distributions


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