On 01/13/2014 05:05 AM, Sean Dague wrote:
On 01/12/2014 09:56 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote:
If all you're looking for is a javascript-based in-browser templating
system, then handlebars is a fine choice. I'm not certain on how complex
status.html/status.js is, however if you expect it to grow to something
more like an application then perhaps looking at angular as a full
application framework might help you avoid both this growing pain and
future ones (alternatives: Ember, backbone, etc).
Honestly, I've not done enough large scale js projects to know whether
we'd consider status.js to be big or not. I just know it's definitely
getting too big for += all the html together and doing document.writes.
I guess the real question I had is is there an incremental path towards
any of the other frameworks? I can see how to incrementally bring in
templates, but again my personal lack of experience on these others
means I don't know.
Quick warning though, a lot of the javascript community out there uses
tooling that is built on top of Node.js, for which current official
packages for Centos/Ubuntu don't exist, and therefore infra won't
support it for openstack. Storyboard is able to get around this because
it's not actually part of openstack proper, but you might be forced to
manage your code manually. That's not a deal breaker in my opinion -
it's just more tedious (though I think it might be less tedious than
what you're doing right now).
I'd ideally like to be able to function without node, mostly because
it's another development environment to have to manager. But I realize
that's pushing against the current at this point. So I agree, not a deal
breaker.
Yeah - as a quick note though, just for clarity - this is only talking
about node as a dev/build time depend - not a runtime depend.
I think, given that we seem to be doing more and more with javascript,
that we might should just bite the bullet and learn the toolchain - I'm
starting feel that doing all the js stuff without it is like the crazy
python people who refuse to touch pip for some reason.
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