On 04/15/2014 12:34 PM, Kurt Taylor wrote: > > Anita Kuno <ante...@anteaya.info> wrote on 04/15/2014 09:41:17 AM: >> On 04/15/2014 10:20 AM, Kurt Taylor wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sorry if you get this twice. >>> >>> Since summit is approaching quickly, I wanted to see if anyone had > interest >>> in forming a meetup for 3rd party testing. This would be a group for >>> helping the project cores by helping ourselves and hopefully improving >>> overall CI rollout. >>> >>> Some topics to discuss: I'd at least like to get a standard tag that > would >>> help with email filtering, but we could also build a FAQ and > documentation >>> contributions to improve the content of the 3rd party testing. We could >>> also document different use cases and best practices for each on how >>> different testers solved problems they encountered for their > environment. I >>> don't know how long we would be able to meet, so this may just be an >>> organizational meeting, focusing on how to best share this info. >>> >>> I started an etherpad for discussion topics and eventual agenda here: >>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/3rdPartyTesting >>> >>> I have not worked out all the details for when and where to meet, but I >>> would be happy to set it up and facilitate the discussion. I wanted to > see >>> if there was any interest before I took it any further. >>> >>> Any interest? > >>> >> There is a summit design session proposed to address this: >> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/59 >> >> Entitled: Improving Third Party Testing >> >> If you would like to add the information you would like to cover as a >> comment to the proposal that would help ensure the content gets covered. > > Thanks for your response. I did not know about this and I am glad this is > proposed. It was my intention originally to propose this type of > discussion, but after bringing this up in -infra, it was not something the > team wanted to discuss in a design session. They suggested a BOF or meetup > at the infra table in developer's lounge. I do not know yet if that > location is still a possibility or not, as I indicated in my email. > >> >> Since the purpose of the design summit is to cover material like this, I >> encourage people to get familiar with the summit sessions that are >> already proposed: http://summit.openstack.org/ and to propose sessions >> that you would like covered if you don't see a current proposal for your >> topic of interest. >> >> Since most of what I saw in the Neutron design summit sessions last year >> is counter to how most other programs use their design summit sessions, >> I encourage you to consider using the design summit session format. >> Neutron design summit sessions end up being more like conference >> presentations and that is not what the design summit was meant to be at > all. >> >> Design summit sessions are meant to be group discussion chaired by >> either the proposer of the session or someone else but equally discussed >> by all participants. They are not meant to be a presentation with a >> passive audience. > > Yes, I am very familiar with UDS-style design summits and have lead several > design sessions in the past on other projects. I think this is a big factor > in the enormous success of the OpenStack project. > > There is probably some overlap in the proposed design session and the > meetup. But, I actually see the meetup as more of a organizational meeting > to pull together the developers with experience in CI to share ideas and > how we got past the problems we found. > > Maybe we can wait for the outcome of the session discussion and determine > next steps after summit? I can get behind that direction.
Yes it feels like mid-cycle meetups are getting to be more and more important. Let's bring our ideas to the summit session (hoping it gets a slot) and continue the discussion afterwards. Thanks Kurt, Anita. > > Thanks again! > > Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) > OpenStack Development Lead - PowerKVM CI > IBM Linux Technology Center > > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev